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A slightly more unusual Tiny Tiger generator arrived a couple of weeks ago, it's a Model 400 from Gadco Electra.
It doesn't use the permanent magnet rotor found in the Model 300, instead it uses a wound armature & carbon brushes, same as you would find in older generators & motors.
The output is 115V DC 400 watts only, there is also no low voltage output provided.

 

Has anyone else on the forum got one of these or any pictures of a complete one, as mine is missing a few bits?

 

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I did find a article featuring both the Tiny Tiger 400 generator and a Safe-T-Products brush cutter that also appears to use the O & R engine, in the December 1962 edition of Desert magazine pages 6 & 7, a pdf is available from the swdeserts.com archive here;
http://www.swdeserts.com/index_htm_files/196212-DesertMagazine-1962-December.pdf

 

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David

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They are definitely a lot rarer, I certainly couldn't find pictures of any others on the web, although there were some on the old forum but I never saved a copy of them.

 

Here is the only other information I could find, from magazines scanned by google;

 

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David

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9 hours ago, san diego mike said:

I recently got a generator like this but it also has 12v dc and 120v dc

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

Are you sure the 120V output is DC? Or is it a Champ generator, as they have 12VDC, 115VAC & 115VDC outputs.

 

http://myoldmachine.com/topic/1386-amp-champ-generator/

 

The model 400 featured in this thread doesn't have a low voltage output.

Have a look at the pdf I posted in this thread if it is a Tiny Tiger, although it doesn't list a 120VDC version.

 

http://myoldmachine.com/topic/2968-tiny-tiger-arrives/#comment-33893

 

David

 

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Here are some more pictures of my model 400 DC generator, which I'm currently working on.

 

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Both the commutator & carbon brushes show little wear, there is some corrosion the steel laminations on the armature, hopefully it will clean up OK.

 

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There is still some magnetism left in the field coils, some filings/swarf can be seen on the ends of the coil blocks.

 

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Not sure how I can easily flatten the card on this one as it won't fit past the fan, it may have to be done in situ.

 

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David

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Here are some more pictures of the progress on restoring this generator.

 

Engine stripped & parts cleaned. The governor vane & exhaust were missing & the original carb (not shown) was damaged, many thanks to Webhead for the replacements. A spares engine provided the missing air filter.

 

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Both the main crankshaft bearings on the flywheel side were found to have cracked plastic retaining rings for the bearing rollers, the spares engine provided a couple of replacements. I also found out why the spares engine had excessive play in the con-rod big end, someone had already taken the bearings. The bearings were changed to have steel retaining rings on later engines.

 

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Replacement bearings fitted and engine part reassembled.

 

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The other bearings were OK, they were cleaned, greased and refitted, new paper gaskets were made.

 

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New gaskets were made for the cylinder & exhaust and the exhaust collector ring was also replaced as it was found to be damaged.

 

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The perished rubber wires from the magneto coil were sleeved with heat-shrink sleeving, be careful when using a heat-gun to avoid damaging the insulation on these early coils. A new terminal was also fitted for the spark-plug lead.

 

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David

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On 8/17/2016 at 9:04 PM, factory said:

Has anyone else on the forum got one of these or any pictures of a complete one, as mine is missing a few bits?

 

Was doing a bit a web searching last night and found a tiny picture of another Tiny Tiger Model 400, a bit of further searching and I found out it was from a recently sold ePay listing (as the seller misspelt Ohlsson & Rice I never saw it).

Here are some pictures of it that I have saved;

 

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I'm not sure if the handle on the generator is original as the screws on mine aren't long enough to add one & the original advert/articles from the 1960's don't show one. Also it's hard to tell if the generator has been repainted from the pictures.

 

David

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The engine rebuild has mostly been completed.

 

New diaphragm, gasket & check valve fitted to the carb.

 

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Starter repaired with new rope and missing wooden pull taken from the spares engine.

 

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As the base was missing I needed to make a new one, I had already found out the base was the same as the standard Tiny Tiger so I borrowed one from another in my collection to make a copy from. The original was aluminium, but I found a nice off-cut of stainless steel sheet almost the right width for the base, on one of the stalls at a vintage rally a few weeks ago.

 

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After cutting to size and a lot of filing the new base was polished on one side & some temporary feet fitted (I think I may have found a UK source for some feet that look similar to the original ones, but need to confirm the size with the supplier).

 

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David

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A bit more progress on the Tiny Tiger 400, I had to source or make the fixings for attaching the engine to the new base.

 

Here is a picture of the original fixings on the other Tiny Tiger I restored.

 

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The screws are #10-32 and I found some with smaller heads locally. The acorn Pal-nuts are still made, but I couldn't find a supplier for the correct size, so I ended up ordering some modern ones, I will change them if I ever find a source of the correct ones.

 

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The Tufnol/Paxalin tubes had to made using the one pictured above as a template. These were made from some Tufnol/Paxalin rod a couple at a time, using the nearest sized metric drill for the hole, then turned down to final size and finally parted off.

 

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Cleaned up with edges with a file & sandpaper and gave them a coat of varnish. Two of the extra ones will find their way onto my Tiny Tor generator.

 

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David

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