Yeah I know, I asked them if they could change the shipping away from Global Shipping as they have a high possibility of getting seized in Kentucky, I got a reply saying they would look into it, but heard nothing after I replied. BTW they are for Orline based trimmers not the Little Wonder.
Not seen any O&R powered hedge-trimmers with a blade that long yet, most they managed was a 30" cut from three different manufacturers (Little Wonder, Grow Gear and Orline). Maybe the larger 20A engine would be more suited for a longer blade, will have to see if they offered anything.
Looking at the list I have, it states the Type 215 engine was used on a Minibike from Aerocycle Inc. I don't think there is any connection with modern companies using that name.
Some more pictures of the handle, outside diameter is approx 10", the height from the flat section is approx 9½" and the tube is approx ½" diameter.
The flat section is approx 1, 15/16" by 1, 11/16" with a hole to suit the switch fitted, I suspect my switch has been replaced judging by how chewed up the nut is.
The prices for a trio of the engines from these trimmers on ePay a few years ago were between $55 and $90, none of them were runners and one had been bodged by a reseller with an incorrect 13A starter.
They were apparently returns that came from the factory when it closed down, according to the original seller.
Paul, I guess if UPS was involved then shipping would be a no no, as they are way too expensive for international shipping.
I did use the correct units, thousandths of a meter, sorry metre !
The imperial "inch" unit, the one that converts from 1 inch to 25.4mm and non of the other inch units mentioned here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch
Six months ago I couldn't have told you what either of those engines were from, the new information I acquired from @Webheadhas a list with information on what most of these engines were used on.
The gear should have a left hand thread for the shaft extension screw, part no. 26-9.
Well, maybe some good news. I went through all my stuff and found my Type 150 engine. It has a gearbox with the PTO flipped. It also has an unusual spacer in place of one of the normal legs that attaches it to the engine. This leads me to believe I might be able to rotate the whole gearbox to point in the upward direction vs down like on the chainsaws. I’ll have to pull it off and try it to confirm. If it rotates ok then this might end up being the engine I use for the compressor project. I’ll scrounge up a different gas tank. This engine looks like it might have been set up on a trimmer or something.
Both your Type 150 engine & my Type 157 engine came from hedge cutters.
Apparently the 20A333 engine is the correct engine for this Carbra hedge trimmer, the information I have states that this engine was first used in 8-27-73, which matches the date coded into the serial number.
And the Carbra hedge cutters are French, which may explain why they aren't very common in the UK.
If you mean the vertical black plate (photo 4 and 5), I should be able to get the overall dimensions, hole locations etc will be a bit more tricky now its assembled but I'll have a look for you
Great, thank you. My hole pattern might vary a little anyway depending on what I can come up with for a gearbox so no worries if that’s tricky to get.
You should be able to work out the height for the PTO to match the compressor (with the round spacer added), the parts list for the Orline compressor frame can be found in Section 4 of the manuals sticky thread.
Here is the outline drawing that covers the Model H engine, you may need to rotate the gearbox mounting holes for the plate as per the original.
Close-up of the gearbox mounting details, rotate as needed.
On 3/27/2021 at 2:28 PM, pmackellow said:
Just had a look, the plate is 130mm wide, 175mm tall, and the bottom lip is 25mm wide
Hope that helps
Needs remeasuring in the correct units, they wouldn't have used this metric nonsense.
Well, maybe some good news. I went through all my stuff and found my Type 150 engine. It has a gearbox with the PTO flipped. It also has an unusual spacer in place of one of the normal legs that attaches it to the engine. This leads me to believe I might be able to rotate the whole gearbox to point in the upward direction vs down like on the chainsaws. I’ll have to pull it off and try it to confirm. If it rotates ok then this might end up being the engine I use for the compressor project. I’ll scrounge up a different gas tank. This engine looks like it might have been set up on a trimmer or something.
I also found a shaft that might work. Bad news is when I went to check the fit to the gear I found that the inner threads of the gear are stripped. Not sure if it can be re-threaded but I’ll have to give it a try. I’m not out of the woods yet for the gear and shaft.
They did a range of engine with reverse position gearboxes, the 1961 info has some parts diagrams for the oldest ones.
I think it might be the same casting, the spacer is where the carb would normally be and they machined the opposite side to the correct height to fit the carb.
Here is a Type 157 I have with the same arrangement;
Interesting the base plate you have seems to be identical to the one used for the O&R version, even has the two extra holes for the vertical plate that the O&R engine attaches to, see post #12 in the this thread.
How about flipping it? Found this NOS gear sitting in the parts stash
The shaft will be lower rather than up higher but it should work if you want to try flipping the PTO in your chainsaw case. I've never tried it but always wanted too.
Well the bearings listed are the same for the Type 185 (chainsaw) and the early Type H, both use a pair of A-27-1 (single) bearings.
The early Model H uses gears type A-62-2 (driven) & A-62-4 (pinion/clutch drum), both are still listed in the 1971 parts list.
The Type 216 & 195 both use later gears of type A-62-14 (driven 66 tooth) & A-62-20 (pinion/clutch drum).
There are different part numbers for the gear-case halves.
The differences may be the taper & how far it the shaft sticks out once assembled, you may have to experiment and probably source or make a matching shaft extension for the taper if it needs one.
The Orline Hedge trimmers have a reduction gearbox with the same gears (66 tooth & 18 tooth), if your looking for engine types that may have been removed from these on ePay, search for types 13A183, 13A208, 13A224 and 13B259.
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That's the trouble they sell too well even at high prices, you did very well to get one for much less a while ago.
David