FrankZ

Factory, Thanks for your kind words! I appreciate all your posts to this topic that helped me get to this point. I'll be happy to provide some Palnuts. Perhaps send me a private message and we can go from there.

I made an aluminum base plate based on DustyB's picture provided. Thanks again DustyB! I used an old scrap speed limit sign I had and cut it out of that. Believe it or not, I was able to find locally, NOS 10-32 Palnuts. It was an all or none purchase so now I have around 80-100 of these... I was not able to find any feet that were close to original so I decided to use what I had, and since I have extra Palnuts, I used them as fasteners on the feet as well. Not correct as original, but it all matches nicely and I think it looks good...

Thanks Factory for the clarification on the fuel line port and also for the link to the tank repair. I was wondering what the inside of that tank looked like! The screen and retainer were loose in the tank when I purchased my Tiny Tiger. I assume the rubber piece is still in place but no filter screen so I will put an inline filter just before the carb.

Wallfish - Sorry not sure if you mean closer to the tank center lengthwise or widthwise... I should have labeled the picture. Can you verify "A" or "B" in the picture below, thanks!

Made some progress and have everything cleaned up and ready to reassemble. Can someone please verify the fuel line routing for me? One line goes from the port by filler cap to the other side of the tank and one line goes from the tank to the carburetor. Which of the 2 ports on the right side of the gas tank in my picture below (carb side) is to be used for the fuel line going to the carb? Thanks again for helping me get this going!

I turned a starter handle out of oak. Here are my dimensions and finished handle (except for primer/black paint): I received the parts shipment from Wallfish - thank you very much! I should now be able to finish rebuilding the carb and work on the starter issue with installation of correct dogs/pawls and reel. I have a request for proper bend/angle for the governor vane/blade. When I took the blower housing off for the first time it looked like this: That is obviously not correct. Luckily this vane is metal, probably aluminum, so I can straighten out the bent tip on the left side but I need to know where to bend it on the right side near the rivets. Is it bent on an angle or just straight from front to back, and at what angle should it sit in reference to the vertical cylinder behind it? I assume it should be around the 10 o'clock position? Once again your help is greatly appreciated, thank you.

Okay Factory was correct - I was able to remove the spool without removing that retainer for the spring. All I needed to do was to release the tension on the spring by removing the cord and letting it unwind. I then just rocked the spool back and forth while pulling upward and after a minute or two it came off. I will NOT attempt to remove that retainer clip. I'll just clean and lubricate the spring in place. Wallfish - thanks for the update on the shipment. I'll let you know when it arrives. I really appreciate all the help and correspondence on this forum. Thank you!

David, Thanks for your input. If I release the tension on spring I think you are correct about the reel/spool being able to come out without removing the spring and/or retainer. It is currently still under tension so let me give that a try.

I was afraid of that... Mine has to come out so I can replace the spool. I'm guessing this is not an easy replacement part to find...

Any advice on how to remove this retaining clip without breaking it? The newer vintage Drillgine had a retaining ring that was relatively easy to remove and install in the blower housing. This I'm not so sure about....

Thanks David for the additional information on the handle. Now that I study the dimensions I have more questions: What is the diameter of the thru-hole bore that the cord runs through? This would be the diameter at the bottom end of the handle that sits against the rubber snubber. What is the diameter of the counter bore that is approx 1-3/4" in depth that conceals the spring & cord end knot? This would be the diameter at the top ball end of the handle. My Tiny Tiger has the snubber and spring still attached on the pull cord. Just the wooden handle is missing. The diameter of the spring looks to be 1/4"

Thanks DustyB for the dimensions of the handle. I will turn one up and paint it black. Thanks Factory for the additional base plate info. Even though my base plate was missing, the original little spacers that go between the tank and base were still there. The machine screws were replaced with wood screws, but the spacers were reused. At least that is one detail I don't need to source/fabricate! I will try to locate those Palnuts here locally but that may prove to be a difficult find.

DustyB, In looking at your dimensions, Would you please get me an overall length? Thanks again!

Thank you very much DustyB!!!

After a couple weeks with no time to dedicate to these, I have an update: On the Drillgine, I had to reinstall the starter pull cord and also fix the end of the recoil spring that sticks out through the blower housing so it would stay in place. Then with the new diaphragm in the carb I was able to get her running. Chucked up a 3/8" drill bit and drilled some holes through a 2x4 to see how it ran under load. Runs nicely. On the Tiny Tiger, I had taken some carb parts and used them to get the Drillgine going and needed some other parts. Wallfish is in the process of shipping me parts he had this week. Hopefully that will get me further along to the point I can try to start it. I still need the wooden handle for the pull cord. It is the wooden longer black handle with ball end. Would anyone have dimensions they would share with me (Thanks again DustyB for the awesome base diagram!) I'll need overall length, shank length, and diameter of ball end. If someone provides this information, I'll try my hand at turning one on the wood lathe.

Thank you DustyB. This is exactly what I need to fabricate a base!

As seen in the first picture in this topic, my Tiny Tiger came mounted on a wooden base. Would anyone have a measured drawing they would be willing to share so I can make one that is close to original? I assume it is aluminum plate and I'll need to know thickness in addition to overall measurements. Or if someone is willing to just trace the outline and mail it to me? Send a PM and I'll reply asap. Thanks! Update on the Drillgine: I purchased a couple diaphragm & gasket kits and took some parts from the Tiny Tiger carb and was able to assemble a complete primer diaphragm unit. I installed it on the Drillgine and last night tried to start it. On the second pull, the starter rope come out in my hand... So now I'm learning that replacement process which is thankfully outlined in the service manual I downloaded from Factory's topic. Thanks Factory! Hopefully I will get the Drillgine running this weekend.

One other observation. The metal Diaphragm Disc is very different in these. The one in the Drillgine is much larger diameter and has a lip around the edge. The one in the Tiny Tiger is smaller and flat.

I disassembled the carbs on both and found them in inoperable condition as soon as the diaphragms were removed. I assume previous owners (without access to this great site) put the parts together as shown. Tiny Tiger: Drillgine: Note the Tiny Tiger carb has the rubber check valve and the Drillgine has the ball valve. Diaphragm Roller was missing from the Tiny Tiger carb and the Arm Spring had a broken leg on the Drillgine carb. Roller was under laying under the arm out of position on the Drillgine. It doesn't look like you can just interchange the ball valve for the rubber valve as the seats are different. Ball valve casting on the left, rubber valve casting on the right: Unfortunately the rubber valve/arm assembly looks like this:

Here is a picture of the serial number stamping on the crankcase of the Tiny Tiger:

Thank you David for your information on the starter dogs and approximate date of the Tiny Tiger! I need to disassemble the carb to verify all the parts are there. Once I get that done I can work up a total parts list of items needed.

Yes that would work, but in the end I'll want both to be operational so I'll need a second set of matching parts.

In order to see if I had spark on the Tiny Tiger, I took the flywheel and recoil starter assembly from the Drillgine and installed them on the Tiny Tiger. This allowed me to be able to turn the engine over using the recoil starter cord. After cleaning the points and setting proper gaps on the points, mag, and plug, I was able to get spark. That is the good news. The bad news is that there is a difference in the recoil starter reels between these two. I was not able to put the original blower housing/starter assembly on the Tiny Tiger after installing the flywheel and starter pawls/dogs from the Drillgine. It was very close to fitting up but the blower housing would not seat against the backing plate. Here is a picture showing both blower housings/starter reels with an arrow pointing to the difference: The Drillgine housing/starter reel is on the left, the Tiny Tiger on the right. So if I'm able to source the newer, more common starter pawls/dogs, I may also need a different starter reel as well.

Thank you Wallfish for the welcome and your post! I will disassemble the carbs and check for missing parts according to the carb tutorial. I assumed the starter pawl/dogs were not correct or complete. If you find a spare set I would be interested. Same with the knob.

Hi, I found this site while trying to get information on these 2 units that I recently acquired. There is a wealth of information here and I certainly appreciate learning about these small industrial OR engines as I've had no previous experience with them.... So I need your help. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated as I would like to get these running again. First up is the Tiny Tiger 300. Here is a picture: I was able to find a type number 111 and a serial number 026152. Can you provide an engine model and date of manufacture based on this information? The recoil starter handle/knob is missing. Does anyone have these for sale? Would the correct one be the early wood stained or painted black one? The recoil started works but does not engage the starter pawls on the flywheel. I have no experience with this so I need help. Here is a picture: I assume there is a spring of some sort missing. Is that correct or is there something else not installed correctly? There is a washer underneath each pawl. I would like to purchase carb kits for both this engine and the Drillgine. I assume the same kit works on both but not sure. The Drillgine is a newer 1969 vintage engine (I think) based on the serial number 936515. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks - Frank Z