sten 84 #1 Posted May 23, 2016 Hi, I picked up an Allen Scythe over the weekend and thought I would do some research on dating it but I seem to be getting conflicting information. Sorry I cant load any pictures, since I updated to windows 10 I cant get pictures from my camera to my PC, ( anyway thats another story ) My Allen is machine No. R25418 on a brass plaque on the alloy cooling duct on what I believe to be a Villiers 11c engine. The "R" before the number should mean ratchet hubs but it doesnt have ratchet hubs, from what I can find the machine no. dates it roughly to 1947 but after 1943 they were supposed to have a Villiers Mk25c. Also it has brass handlebar ends but these were supposed to be out of use after the Mk2. Have I bought a bitsa or is everything I read on the internet wrong? So in summery machine no. R25418, Villiers 11c engine, no ratchet hubs and brass handlebar ends also it has a cable operated clutch. Can anyone give me an idea of the date please. 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 642 #2 Posted May 24, 2016 Sounds like a MK2 you have there. Fuel tank should be front to back Yes the engine should & will be a 11c Later MK2s did have ratchet hubs Sounds to me its had an ID or cowling change & yes it will be a 1940s machine 2 Triumph66 and sten reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sten 84 #3 Posted May 24, 2016 Thank you Chris, yes the tank is front to back, I'm looking forward to getting it running, I have never used one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sten 84 #4 Posted May 25, 2016 Something else I've noticed on my Allen, it has adjustable height handlebars which most don't have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 642 #5 Posted May 25, 2016 All Mk2 Allens had this Model T & TS were fixed Model F had ajustable bars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites