Allen scythe project acquired.

[Rchrd 0]

Hopefully not too big a project. Looks from this thread to be a 1972 engine anyway:

 

 

(Where Jarrovian said: "was the machine originally red with with cream/off white wheels because the only model fitted with a Kohler K91T fitted was the last TS model made about 1970/1972 engine parts are available from Meetens at Preston who do an excellent mail order service  as regards tyres there is a firm called China Parts in county Durham there is also Villiers Parts but George can be a bit troublesome at times so I personally use him but many have had good service)

 

 

I'm asking questions in another place too, trying to get maximum info/help. If that's not OK, please will someone tell me PDQ!

 

Unfortunately, parts sources seem to have changed since the quoted thread was posted. Can anyone tell me of parts sources (machine, engine) currently operational?

 

Edited July 23 by Rchrd

[Anglo Traction 1,016]

Engine is 1972 model. The 'P' stands for `pump version !. The 'T' stands for retractable pull start.

Kohler Engine Workshop Manual and parts list can be found by online searching, as can the parts list.

Oxford Allen manuals also online and some parts still available via -     Villiersparts       

 

[mattblack 76]

L&S Engineers took over Meeten's stock: L&S Engineers | Top Supplier of Spare Parts for Construction and Garden Machinery | L&S Engineers (lsengineers.co.uk)

[Rchrd 0]

1 hour ago, mattblack said:

L&S Engineers took over Meeten's stock: L&S Engineers | Top Supplier of Spare Parts for Construction and Garden Machinery | L&S Engineers (lsengineers.co.uk)

Thank you. I will look at their site.

 

Edit: Spares for Kohler K91 enginess seem sparsely represented there. Can't find general Allen Scythe spares there, unfortunately.

 

Have found this online, re engine servicing: https://resources.kohler.com/power/kohler/enginesUS/pdf/tp_2379.pdf. Good.

Edited July 23 by Rchrd

[Rchrd 0]

2 hours ago, Anglo Traction said:

Engine is 1972 model. The 'P' stands for `pump version !. The 'T' stands for retractable pull start.

Kohler Engine Workshop Manual and parts list can be found by online searching, as can the parts list.

Oxford Allen manuals also online and some parts still available via -     Villiersparts      

Thank you. "Pump"? "Engine has oil pump", I assume?

 

I have removed the cutter bar.

• It is rather bent, the knife bar that the blades are rivetted to has a continuous curve, the thicker bar it sits in and which the fingers are bolted to has quite abrupt bends either side of the casting it's bolted to. I should be able to straighten out both (and keep an eye open for spares/used ones, attachments, etc.).
• Some of the fingers are bent at the tips. I wonder if it's possible to straighten them, perhaps by heating the ends and hammering back to position on an anvil (or in my case an old offcut of RSJ)? Also, at each end, the "double finger" blocks have been flattened rather, that it the piece that covers the top of the blades has been bent down. Perhaps these can be bent back to position?
• The "hardened steel inserts" look OK (not rounded at the edges). Are these removable? I'd guess not.
• The "drive lug" in the centre of the cutter bar is quite worn.

The engine, even with the cutter bar removed, seems a little stiff turning over. It had at least some oil in it, not too discoloured, which is encouraging. There is no spark. Perhaps the points are mucky, as they were on my Howard 350 (Kohler K141T). I'd better get the lid off and look at the valves, and fix an annoying shortage of fasteners in the cowlings too.

 

Somebody has made a frightful bodge, and hammered in a bolt on the RHS wheel/shaft. The bolt threads are striated, but the keyways don't look too bad (as far as I can tell without removing the wheel).

 

Not sure whether I need to look in the innards of the actual machine, or just change the oil (is there an improvement on the recommended SAE30 engine oil nowadays)?

 

Perhaps there's a decent "Allen Scythe mainteinance/restoration" video lurking somewhere? There are all sorts of videos, but mainly of people who don't seem to be very familiar with these "frightening" machines trying to use them, with varying degrees of success.

 

I will have to gently look into various things and see what's what.

[Anglo Traction 1,016]

On 7/23/2024 at 7:28 PM, Rchrd said:

Thank you. "Pump"? "Engine has oil pump", I assume?

 

It's a version of the basic engine design that may serve several applications. You could find that engine spec example on a Generator set.

 

I would stick to traditional mineral based 30 weight Oils like Castrol XL. Many of these older engines are not suited to modern oils. Look's also that you are reasonably familiar with Kohler engines

 

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