factory 487 #26 Posted July 20, 2019 I've moved several posts about the 13A/13B shaft seals (that are not relevant to the Orline Mark II chainsaw) to new thread here: I've had to add quotes for the bits that can't be moved (as I can't split a single post into two separate posts). David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #27 Posted July 20, 2019 Thank you David, you’re the guru. I’ll try to make sure not to mix posts in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #28 Posted July 20, 2019 Clint, I hope it all makes sense. Back to the Orline Mark II saw, is it running OK now? You were talking about taking it apart to check seals & the fuel lines (which are completely inaccessible otherwise), have you got the required socket for getting the de-compression valve out? The engine can't be removed from the frame with that in the way, a deep thin walled socket is required to remove the valve. David P.S. I will try & get the rest of that service bulletin added to the manuals thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #29 Posted July 20, 2019 David, I have decided to set the Mark II aside for the moment. I do plan to take it apart at some point though to check everything. I am going to read up on it a bit more, since it will be the first 20A that I have worked on and they look to be a little more involved than the 13A or B engines. I want to know more about what I’m getting into before I’m committed I’m really glad you mentioned the de-compression valve and the need for a proper socket. I’ll have to check to see if I have the right size. Thanks, Clint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #30 Posted July 20, 2019 I ended up buying two deep sockets, the first one was too large to fit. You may also find it useful to have three longer screws/bolts to help with separating the engine from the frame. Another deep reach socket is used for installing the seals. Have a good read through both the 20A & Challenger Chainsaw manuals. There is another service bulletin for these saws, they must have had complaints. David 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #31 Posted July 21, 2019 Wow, this is extremely helpful! Thank you for digging through the info, these service manual tips are best known ahead of time. I have some deep sockets but I’ll have to see if they fit. If not, I’ll probably buy a couple heaped sockets individually and grind the outer edge down to fit. I had to do this on a 3/8 socket once in order to remove a needle valve from the carberatur on my Kohler K241. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #32 Posted July 22, 2019 Just had a look at the sockets again, actually it wasn't the outside that was the problem, it was the inside not being as deep as it looked. The Japanese one I got from a junk stall fitted, whereas the expensive Snap-on didn't (I really should stick it back on the bay). David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #33 Posted July 23, 2019 Ahh, that’s good to know ahead of time. I was able to find my deep sockets, now just need to verify it’ll fit the valve. That’s too bad the Snap-On socket didn’t work out, they make nice quality tools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites