The Compact III is just the series of O&R engine rated for 1HP, earlier engine series were Compact I (¾HP) and Compact II (0.85HP). The oldest ¾HP engines didn't have Compact decal and are occasionally misdescribed as 1HP on auction sites.
Later they changed to using Series 13A for all 1HP engines with that style of starter and 13B for 1HP engines with the square spring housing type starter.
There should be a model letter or type number stamped into the mounting flange on the exhaust side of the engine (later engines had this information on the alloy cylinder plate which often go missing), I do have information for most O&R's but oddly Devillaine is not in the list.
Here is an older engine showing the type on the mounting flange.
And a later 13B engine with the type & serial details on the alloy cylinder plate (or cooling baffle as O&R called it).
Hopefully that will help with finding another engine, if you decide not to rebuild the original engine.
Personally I would try & restore the original engine, as it's part of the history of your car and the serial number tied to that engine helps date the whole thing.
David
Thank you dear David, i am very impressed by your knowledge. I follow your advice and buy all the parts to restore. If I need i will contact you later to help me ... please let me know the total price and how to pay (paypal is ok for me). Kind regards from France still under lockdown
Here are the screws (the nut is only required for engines with the condenser/capacitor fitted behind one of the starter screws) & a pair of starter dogs, I've sent a private message with more details.
David
Dear David, i am interested to buy all the parts to restore the engine and make it running (screws, carb diaph, starter..). The reference on the starter is "Compact III". I attached some photos. Do you have the same engine complete (running) for sale? best regards - jean pascal
This is the one I have, just unpacked it to find out which parts were with it, the paint looks more faded than the pictures show (really needs a repaint).
It should fit your engine, there are another two different styles of starter for earlier & later engines, which is why I asked for the pictures. Later ones with the square spring housing will not fit, nor will early ones due to differences in the magneto coil.
Please let us know if you need the starter dogs as there is only one in the bag, a pair is used. Also do need the screws?The ones in the bag maybe longer and need cutting to match the original ones.
David
Dear David, thank you again. I will check the mesures as soon as possible ( not at home now...) and send you to check also on your side. I need all the parts to be sure (one starter bag is ok) I need the screws. Do not worry if I write to you next week....I am very busy and not at home. We keep in touch. you can also contact me at md.arbonne@yahoo.fr or voitureapedales.fr@gmail.com
Wow, amazing website! You truly have an incredible pedal and gas powered car collection. That has to be one of the coolest uses of the O&R engine. I’m glad you found this forum and I hope we can help get you the missing parts.
JustO&R- let me know what you find. I’ll try to take a look as well, not sure I have any extra/complete recoils.
Thanks a lot . I will inform you. Your forum seems cool , congrats
I will go to the warehouse on Wednesday to see what I can find . This will be a pleasure to help get this going. I will grab a set of flywheel dog as David suggested and a
new carburetor diaphragm too I,m sure you will need one. I hope this will get you what you need. ( p.s. would like all of them in working order)
Take a good look and see if there is any thing else you may need.
Many thanks ! I think that's all I need. If you prefer to write by email, my adress is md.arbonne@yahoo.fr
Where are you from (one of my sons lives in USA)?
I wait your kind news
jean pascal
17 minutes ago, JUST O&R said:
I will go to the warehouse on Wednesday to see what I can find . This will be a pleasure to help get this going. I will grab a set of flywheel dog as David suggested and a
new carburetor diaphragm too I,m sure you will need one. I hope this will get you what you need. ( p.s. would like all of them in working order)
Take a good look and see if there is any thing else you may need.
That,s awesome !!! would you like to restore that recoil or find a used one to put on it ? I can scrounge you up a used one . you may need to paint it . message me with an address .
would love some pictures of the way the front and rear excels are in the car and the drive system.
Thank you dear for your answer. If it's possible to find one complete working, it would be fine. How much could it costs? (more shipping to France?) I will take pictures asap. Regards
16 hours ago, CNew said:
Those are gorgeous, what a cool car! I even like the older one in sweaty condition. You’ve got quite the pair of collectible cars!
thanx......
www.voitureapedales.fr is my collection
18 hours ago, Wallfish said:
Oh man, 2 of them.
Please let me know if this ever becomes for sale!!!! I would love to import one of those to the USA
I will think to sale the green one. Not sure for the moment. I will let you know
18 hours ago, factory said:
Nice to see a couple more of those, thanks for adding the pictures of them.
That does look in poor condition, the alloy housing is intact but all the steel parts have suffered badly, springs can be found but the bearing for the starter reel are not seen very often and that one has rusted through. If you had access to a lathe I'm sure those could be made along with new rollers for the rope to pass through.
I do have a spare starter that I had wrapped & boxed up for another guy on here, but they never came back to me, would need to check if it's correct for your engine.
Are the starter dogs also missing, as I can't see them in the pictures?
David
Thank you david, yes it is in poor condition....that's sad....Do you think that yours is very different? how to check if it is the good one? how much is it? my email is md.arbonne@yahoo.fr. - regards- jean pascal
Just wondering what this picture is of the drive looks like a devillaine ?
looks like the same drive system and brakes
Dear, YES it is an OURAGAN by the brand DEVILLAINE ( France 1966) I have 2 of them, one in excellent and original condition and one original but these part is missing .
10 hours ago, JUST O&R said:
Just not sure
11 hours ago, CNew said:
That can definitely be restored. Looks like a new spring and pull know would do it plus some major TLC. I’m also very curious what this engine is attached to! More photos?
thank you for your message. This engine is on a kid car from 1966. The french brand DEVILLAINE produced this model named OURAGAN ( hurican...).
http://www.voitureapedales.fr/devillaine-ouragan/. I have 2 of them . One red in very very good and original condition and a rare green also original but not complete ( missing the parts of the recoil starter)....help !
recoil starter for a 1HP O&R (from Devillaine Ouragan)
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Thank you dear David, i am very impressed by your knowledge. I follow your advice and buy all the parts to restore. If I need i will contact you later to help me ... please let me know the total price and how to pay (paypal is ok for me). Kind regards from France still under lockdown