pmackellow 2,738 #1 Posted November 18, 2014 O&R powered machine distributed here in the UK by Tarpen Engineering, as Tarpen are one of my chosen makes to collect it fits right in... 1 Lauber1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #2 Posted December 25, 2014 Finally scored me a Turbair with the help of member Darmic1. The seller refused to ship it to the U.S. so Darren helped me out. In the process of it all, we made a trade of O&R tools so some U.S. tools are now headed to the U.K. I'm looking forward to breaking it down, giving it a good cleaning and a complete refurbish. Now on the hunt for a canister which was used for the chemical fog so if anyone has any idea of what they looked like or the type that might fit into the connection, please let me know. It appears it would have been a pressurized can. These sprayer/foggers have a VERY unique and interesting carb set up where they extended the diaphragm pump assembly away from the carb body. 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #3 Posted December 25, 2014 The chemicals are gravity feed from a bottle, in use it would have been held by the two foam handles with the engine upside down. I have a handbook for the later Turbair Fox version (not O&R powered) and two electric versions the Scamp & Sprite. Will try and scan a few pages at the weekend. David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #4 Posted December 26, 2014 So you got that Turbair in the end then Wallfish sorry I couldn't help out more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #5 Posted December 26, 2014 So you got that Turbair in the end then Wallfish sorry I couldn't help out more Thanks again for sending me that link! The seller was very slow to respond to any communication when you first sent me the link but finally did. It took a while but finally got him to sell it for a reasonable price. Darren had to call him since he posted his phone # otherwise I may still be working at it. Now I just need the O&R package I sent to Darren, to actually show up at his door. He sent the Turbair a day after I sent his stuff and it was delivered in 4 days, his package has been out there for almost 2 weeks and may be stuck in customs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #6 Posted December 27, 2014 So all's well that ends well then, hopefully Darrens bits will turn up, probably lost in the Xmas post !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #7 Posted January 3, 2015 Here are some scans of the later Turbair Handbook with should help you with finding one of the plastic chemical bottles.The book must date from before 1984, as DDT was banned in the UK then.One bottle (1.14 litres/1 quart) lasts for about 20 minutes use.I also did a bit of research and found out that the electric version is still being made, it is sold as the Electrafan in the UK by Micron and as the Turbair Electrafan in the US by DrammThe new ones seem to come with an empty bottle (may be different size) but I can't find anywhere that sells new spare bottles. David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #8 Posted January 4, 2015 The complete handbook has been uploaded here. http://myoldmachine.com/files/file/55-turbair-fox-scamp-sprite-handbook/ David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #9 Posted June 17, 2016 Picked another Turbair up today... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #10 Posted June 18, 2016 I'm after a couple of bottles now as my other Turbair is missing its bottle as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #11 Posted June 18, 2016 Maybe you could try printing out the chemicals page from post 7 & write wanted empty bottles on it and put it by the sprayer when you take it to shows. David 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #12 Posted June 18, 2016 Good idea David I will try that the next time these go to a show Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain 0 #13 Posted February 6, 2017 I have some old bottles, with chemicals, at least 25 years old are they still any good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #14 Posted February 7, 2017 Hello Captain and welcome to the forum The chemicals are probably illegal by now and will need disposing of If you have any (empty) bottles spare I still need a couple please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #15 Posted February 7, 2017 On 2/6/2017 at 9:34 PM, Captain said: I have some old bottles, with chemicals, at least 25 years old are they still any good On 2/7/2017 at 4:44 PM, pmackellow said: Hello Captain and welcome to the forum The chemicals are probably illegal by now and will need disposing of If you have any (empty) bottles spare I still need a couple please Welcome to the forum. Don't throw the original bottles away, these machines which are still being made & used (with a different shape bottle) are often sold without the bottle. Yes many of the old pesticides are now banned, such as DDT & Zineb (not in all countries though when I checked), but some are still available such as certain types of Acaricide & Malathion, I haven't checked all of the list in the brochure above. If the contents are not wanted they could be transferred (wear gloves as the concentrated chemicals are probably harmful) into a modern bottle, labelled and disposed of properly. Though some people working at waste/recycling centres haven't a clue what to do with chemicals, I took a jar of chemicals to my local waste/recycling centre & when asked where to dispose of it, he took it off me and threw it in the bottle bank with the contents. Anyone reading this should check for current info on the chemicals to find out if they are banned or restricted and how harmful they are. David 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain 0 #16 Posted February 8, 2017 I have a full bottle of cleaning fluid, Isi-BUTANOL A one third bottle of ACARICIDE for res spider mite on roses and glasshouse cucumbers, chrysanthemums and tomatoes. A third of a bottle of DICAMBATE for Apple and pear scab, blackcurrant leaf spot and lettuce downy mildew. Are these all out of licence? The bottle thread is 30mm outside diameter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #17 Posted February 8, 2017 Do you still have the sprayer for them? Butanol based cleaning chemicals are still widely used. I wonder if Isi-Butanol is a PBI brand name for Iso-Butanol. Acarcides are a type of pesticide, containing different chemicals depending on what they are used for. The book posted above says it's a mix of Dicofol/Tetradifon, Dicofol is still used but limited in use per year/crop. Can't find anything useful info for Tetradifon though. Based on the description Dicambate appears to replace others in the book above, can't find any info for it on it's own though. Anyone reading this should check for current info on the chemicals to find out if they are banned or restricted and how harmful they are. David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #18 Posted February 8, 2017 Some manuals for the battery & mains electric versions of the Turbair (now called Electrofan) are available from Micron here; http://www.microngroup.com/files/electrafan_12_manual_-_english_(rev__4).pdfhttp://www.microngroup.com/files/electrafan_240_manual_-_english_(rev__3).pdf Looking at the parts diagrams it appears they haven't changed much over the years. There is also a video on youtube of the battery powered Turbair, compare it with the old picture in post 7 where virtually no protective clothing is being worn! Link below; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XCRxDGdm0A David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain 0 #19 Posted February 8, 2017 Is the Turbair Fox, petrol version, still available. Mine needs a new fuel tank but I could probably make one from a paint tin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #20 Posted February 8, 2017 As far I know they don't make the 2-stroke petrol version any more. Could the tank not be repaired or is it missing? David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #21 Posted February 8, 2017 Turbair Fox, I've got one of them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #22 Posted June 20, 2017 I've finally scanned the instruction manual for the Turbair Tot 2S and created a pdf of it. Turbair Tot 2S Instruction Manual.pdf There is more to follow when I've l got it scanned & edited. David 2 pmackellow and Wallfish reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #23 Posted June 21, 2017 A few more scanned, the leaflets for the Turbair Tot 2S, Imp 12 & Scamp 240. Turbair Leaflets, Tot 2S, Imp 12, Scamp 240.pdf David 2 pmackellow and Wallfish reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #24 Posted December 20, 2017 Some absolute Turbair gems arrived today, two original bottles and their storage boxes and a Turbair brochure... 3 Wallfish, factory and nigel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #25 Posted January 22, 2018 This arrived on Friday to join my collection, a very nice barely used Turbair Tot 2S. I also spotted something I hadn't noticed before with the Turbair sprayers, the carb idle adjustment screw (without the spring) is used to jam the governor vane & keep the throttle open, which will keep the engine running at an ungoverned maximum speed. Here is a picture from the manual showing this, I haven't found any references in the manual as to why they did this though. And a picture of this on the Turbair. I have also checked my other two Turbairs and they are both the same, as are the ones I have saved pictures of in my archive. David 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
