wheelhorse 416/8 pto

[grasscutter 1]

Hi, Im new here, though Ive had a Kawasaki powered 212/5 for a long time and which i have kept whilst other whims have come and gone (snapper - overpowered and unbalanced though good if you like wheelying & a 212-5 briggs&Stratton with collector, too underpowered and cloggy unless youre cutting weekly

Charlie kindly pointed me in this direction following a query to him on ebay, thanks Charlie

Ive just bought a 416/8 but the friction plate / "facing clutch"? is worn down wafer thin and the twin pulley manual pto , (housing - clutch ?) is cracked and slightly distorted

The first bit I probably need to try and find new?,but was hoping with the twin pulleys , just to find one s/h that hasn't been abused like this

The little brake pad affair is also worn out so that's three bits to make it better (not counting the seat which needs a few yards of ductape...) which Id be grateful if anyone could help me out with

The deck was very good thankfully

Thanks in advance

Andy

[grasscutter 1]

Here are the pics re my wheelhorse pto, tacked on as a reply sorry as couldn't edit

[Stormin 4,458]

Sorry I can't help you with the back plate, but the clutch plate could be relined. Also the guide.

[grasscutter 1]

Thanks for taking the trouble, are there specialist reliners that would do that driving plate for under £50 then? its that thin i guess it must be glued. the brakepad too, looks fiddly, can you buy the pads with the rivets proud, ready to be inserted and dollied then? would have expected the cost to be about the same as the made up part but happy to be wrong in this case

Andy

[Stormin 4,458]

  I think you can get relining material and bond it yourself. I've successfully re-bonded a brake lining using super glue. You could do the same with the guide. Have a look on the net.

  It would be a good idea to start a post in Ride On's. Better for getting info.

[Stormin 4,458]

Welcome to MoM BTW.

[Wallfish 691]

*** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING ***

What ever you do, do NOT use that PTO bell. That thing will grenade on you and it won't be pretty. Very Very dangerous to use that!!!!!!

[grasscutter 1]

Hi Wallfish

Thanks for that, but why, from that photo do you see such extreme danger? Ive had a closer look and there is no fraying or cracks although obviously its worn

You have more experience than me so Im genuinely interested to know

Regards Andy

[Stormin 4,458]

I can also see the cracks. 12 o'clock 1st and 2nd photo's and 3 o'clock and 9 in 3rd photo. I'd bin it.

[grasscutter 1]

Ah yes, sorry, misunderstanding, Im not planning to use the pulleys like that, I thought bell was a typo for belt in wallfishes reply.

So now at least I know that's called a 'bell' !

[Stormin 4,458]

13 minutes ago, grasscutter said:

 

So now at least I know that's called a 'bell' !

 

So do I now.

[Wallfish 691]

PTO "Bell" is a slang word for us Americans but just figured you would get the idea because of the cracks in a cast part.

"Housing-Clutch" is the term used in the parts diagrams for that part.

What do you guys call it?

 

[Stormin 4,458]

I'd call it the clutch back plate. The lined plate, the friction plate.

[grasscutter 1]

I don't think there is a particular term for it, Wallfish, like you say, it's called " housing - clutch" in the parts list. Or clutch housing to be less formal!, and that is what I'd have called it. Yes, I should have guessed though, and bell is a good word for it . Now I've just got to find another that hasn't been toortured

Andy