Anglo Traction 1,016 #1 Posted January 26, 2014 Thought I'd start this Topic, as I wonder just how many of us have the old, maybe inherited Tool that you know is old and has been used regularly for as long as you can remember. It would be interesting to see them. This is not my oldest one, but I've managed to find out a lot of info that confirms it's age, as well as adding to the Archived information. Considering it is a simple common type Tool, I'm surprised there is so much info. I give you the humble-- Adjustable Bicycle Wrench (Spanner) Made in U.S.A, as so many of my old tools were. I've established it can only have been produced before 1911, as the Patent Records confirm it and the Company changed the Maker/Identifier Stamp in 1910, and the Model E only shows the later version Stamps in the records. Mine shows Model E, but has the older Stamp indentifiers, so the Model E was made before 1911. Here's a research site I used trhat verifies it - http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/billings-spencer-company.html#billings-adj-early Yes , it's in a sad state and a bit worn, but still works. So what do you have in the old Tool Box?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 524 #2 Posted January 26, 2014 I rememder having something like that , infact the one i did have was a massey fergusson one . I will go and have a rummadge round the shed to see if i can find it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #3 Posted January 26, 2014 currently I can only imagine my 1953 ML7 lathe being the oldest thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #4 Posted January 26, 2014 Not quite a "in the tool box" tool as it's too big, I have a vice that was made in 1914 that I still use.. Must get a photo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amcrules00 24 #5 Posted January 26, 2014 This early '58 RJ is the oldest one I have that left the factory with a toolbox... but I must admit, I am partial to the looks better without 'em fitted up though. 1 neil reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 64 #6 Posted January 26, 2014 I have got a old one that doesn't quite fit in the tool box but very useful . My Dad! 3 neil, simar kid and amcrules00 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amcrules00 24 #7 Posted January 26, 2014 LOL! Lot's of age showing on that ol' tool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #8 Posted January 26, 2014 I've got tools that belong to my father, one of his brothers and their father. There's a couple of those adjustable wrenches. I carry one in the tool bag on my bike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simar kid 22 #9 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) you all have got me wondering what I have,i know that in one of my tool boxes I have a mole trap and a gin trap,but they wont count,must have a look.the mole trap was always set in the lid section of the box and the gin trap was set between the castors on the lowest cupboard. this was to catch other mechanics borrowing or stealing my tools Edited February 3, 2014 by simar kid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 64 #10 Posted February 3, 2014 I was given a load of old taps and dies yesterday (one minute I didn't have any now I have about 200). I came across these but don't know how to use them, I think there must be a special handle for them, they are numbered in order 1-4. they are American according to the makers stamp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #11 Posted February 3, 2014 Looks like they need a special holder too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simar kid 22 #12 Posted February 3, 2014 yes paul the 1 to 4 is the order of threading from start to finish and the other piece which holds the section is tubular with cut outs for your thread cutters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 64 #13 Posted February 3, 2014 Thanks for that, I will have to see if I can find the handle, it will be about somewhere in the mounds of disused tools. that's a nice pic of the lab/ retriever mines enough problems without wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #14 Posted February 3, 2014 I believe you have there, a set or collection of 'Thread Chasers'. They are used to finish a Thread that has been cut using a Lathe. The basic Cutting Tool use to cut the initial Thread Form in the Lathe does not always have the correct shape to produce the 'Crest' or 'Valley' of the thread form, so they used those 'Chasers' to clean them up and set the profile. The 'Holder' that they fit into can either be a 'Hand' operated Carrier like a long Handle of a Wood Turning Chisel or a Floating type Tool Holder that is fitted to the Lathe. Edit :- Paul , were they made by Starret by any chance?. Regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 548 #15 Posted February 4, 2014 i think they fit in something like this Koen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #16 Posted February 4, 2014 Not quite Koen, that is a Die Holder or Die Nut Runner. Thread Chasers are like Combs that fit into a Holder. If this link works, there is an example amongst the pictures- https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=thread+chaser+DIE+HOLDER&tbm=isch&imgil=0JQb6EeH7pRjbM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQUsAxUJWsnjRjbiw-kzCZdczC1i2361iczuhlJQCqGzWyJaNWCDg%253B500%253B500%253BIuw-7sDmPJXhcM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.tracytools.com%25252Fthread-chasers2&source=iu&usg=__YCBVrfZDr2XOqt9ij_MbVZeI0hw%3D&sa=X&ei=v-jwUvzXMOGL7AbxxoCgDQ&ved=0CFIQ9QEwAw&biw=1188&bih=559#facrc=_&imgrc=0JQb6EeH7pRjbM%253A%3BIuw-7sDmPJXhcM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.tracytools.com%252Fimage%252Fcache%252Fdata%252FNew%252520photos%252520taps%252520dies%252520072-500x500.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.tracytools.com%252Fthread-chasers2%3B500%3B500 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #17 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) I had a set of those dies from my late uncles garage. Sold them at an auto jumble a couple of years back. No holder though. Still got some Whitworth and B.S.F. dies and taps. Edited February 4, 2014 by Stormin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 64 #18 Posted February 4, 2014 Hi all I will have a look at the makers stamp somewhen, I have loads of the above mentioned taps and dies kicking about. If anybody would like the items pictured you could have them as not much use to me. Paul 1 C-101plowerpower reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheeledhorseman 19 #19 Posted February 5, 2014 I don't go out of my way to collect old tools but over the years a few have got into my toolbox for one reason or another so here's one for you (click to enlarge).... The method of construction fascinates me, obviously an adjustable wrench and pretty old but what is its origin? I can't help thinking that maybe it was part of a set of tools suppied with something mechanical and somewhere someone is desparately looking for one of these. Any ideas guys? Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #20 Posted February 7, 2014 I'm inclined to agree Andy, look's very much like part of a Kit. Can't find any similar in initial Patent searches. Very good economic, robust design with the ACME Thread. The Square Grip Jaws could be for the square heads on Plumbing & Pipe Fittings?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #21 Posted February 7, 2014 And the other jaws nuts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 548 #22 Posted February 8, 2014 i think the oldest tool in my toolbox is the whole thing, J.H. Williams Superrench 1001 toolbox with tools Koen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #23 Posted February 8, 2014 Not my oldest tools, but still quite old. No idea on the make, but something tells me it was not made in the UK A King Dick sporting a "war finish" as it says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillsider 16 #24 Posted July 12, 2014 The dies shown in post 10 are from the a ridgid (or similar) thread cutting machine. They fit into a die head in numerical order as has been suggested and can normally be adjusted for depth of cut and released by rotating one half of the die holder against the fixed half. http://www.amazon.com/Diehead-RIDGID-97065-Automatic-Oiler/dp/B0015RWYPQ 1 neil reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 524 #25 Posted July 12, 2014 Wow Hillsider, you know your stuff , I wouldn't have a clue what they were for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites