factory 487 #1 Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) I can't believe what my brother brought back from the local car boot sale this morning, an Orline (Edit: actually a CARBRA) hedge trimmer with an O&R model 20A engine!! I don't think I've seen a model 20A engine on a hedge trimmer before and the it's first 20A I've seen in the UK (apart from on a chainsaw I have, but that was imported from the US). It has been repainted at some point in the past, but the back of the engine housing still has the some of the original white paint on it though. The engine is a model 20A type 333, seems they riveted the model & serial number plates to the 20A engines instead of using the cylinder plate that gets lost on the later 13A/B engines. David Edited April 15, 2019 by factory Corrected make to CARBRA 2 1 Wallfish, CNew and pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #2 Posted July 9, 2017 That's rather nice David, a lucky find then !! So they are about... 1 factory reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webhead 95 #3 Posted July 11, 2017 Hey David, I've never seen one with that engine. As you probably know, I have quite a few of those parts, including complete pull start housings and/or parts, original grips, points, condenser plus cover, NOS carb, possibly a complete gasket kit and other seals, exhaust, block, crank, piston, etc. 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #4 Posted July 11, 2017 I don't suppose you have a proper bottom cover for the blade eccentric/gearbox housing? It's currently got a very thin sheet of aluminium held on with cable ties at one end, as well as a lot of missing or incorrect screws. Also do you have any literature that shows this hedge trimmer at all? The engine dates to 1973. I guess there must be a lot of unidentified model 20A engines out there, as it's hard for people to find out it's an O&R or AEP engine once the original stickers have gone. David edit Apparently there are two different covers for the blade eccentric housing depending on the model, I've no idea what the difference is though. This infomation is from the parts list for the hedge trimmer with the 13A/B engine. 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webhead 95 #5 Posted July 11, 2017 No cover, never even seen that housing- looks different than the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #6 Posted December 7, 2017 Having found a leaflet for a CARBRA hedge cutter that looks very similar to mine (apart from the engine), I no longer think this hedge trimmer was made by O&R. I now suspect someone has adapted it to use the O&R model 20A engine, the fuel tank fitted is from a Cox series 140 engine, same as on the engine shown on the sales leaflet. The series 140 engine was made by O&R competitor Cox, the series 140 engine was also used on a chainsaw & bike kit and was also produced by Roper after they bought the rights to make it. Here is the rest of the CARBRA hedge cutter leaflet scanned & converted to a pdf; CARBRA Hedge Cutters .pdf David 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #7 Posted March 29, 2021 Apparently the 20A333 engine is the correct engine for this Carbra hedge trimmer, the information I have states that this engine was first used in 8-27-73, which matches the date coded into the serial number. And the Carbra hedge cutters are French, which may explain why they aren't very common in the UK. David 1 CNew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #8 Posted March 29, 2021 A bit of using online translate to French (Carbra taille haie) & I've found another here; https://www.paruvendu.fr/annonces/maison-jardin/taille-haie Here are the pictures as the link will probably stop working once it's sold. And some pictures of the Cox/Roper powered version here; https://www.motoculture-jardin.com/forum/detail.php?forumid=2&id=1759&p=1#detail David 1 CNew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites