CNew 404 #1 Posted May 22, 2020 The Comet pump arrived today. Unfortunately it’s missing the ignition coil cover and the actual pump mechanism but it’s still great to be able to add this to the collection and round out the Comet tools. 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #2 Posted May 22, 2020 How many O&Rs are you up to now? Guessing someone probably ran the old pump dry and smoked the impeller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #3 Posted May 22, 2020 Haven’t counted, it’s finally looking like a collection though. I desperately need to build some shelves and start displaying them. I bet you’re right about the pump, doesn’t take much to mess up one of those little impellers. I’d like to try your aluminum foil technique for the rust on the handle, what is the mixture you soak it in first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #4 Posted May 22, 2020 You can do it dry or just dip it in water which works fine but some have said to use Coke. I don't like the sticky mess of the soda and it doesn't really seem to do anything more than water. Crumble it up as the sharp edges is what cleans it up but will not scratch the chrome. Use it on the exhaust manifold too. Makes them look new if they're not too bad. Coating with a very thin coat oil after is good too to stop the rust from returning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #5 Posted May 22, 2020 That's the second O&R pump Cnew has that's missing the pump section, I don't think mine has an intact impeller either, being made of rubber they dry out & crack up with age, as well as fail if run dry. I do have at least one pump with a good impeller here somewhere. The handle is attached on the other side of mine, it's also one of the few older engines I have with the Model letter printed on the decal, I had to fit a new set of feet as the originals were falling apart; David 3 CNew, pmackellow and JUST O&R reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #6 Posted May 22, 2020 The one I have is also marked on the label with a B. It's been a very long time since and can't remember exactly what it was from but I found a new impeller to fit. Think it came from one of those drill pumps My handle comes from the coil side as well but they obviously could be switched. Not sure why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #7 Posted May 22, 2020 That would be very useful if you can remember, I've looked at lots of impellers and have so far been unable to find one of either the correct size or shaft fitting. David P.S. Odd that the engines are labelled B as that is supposed to be the standard engine supplied with an O&R base tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #8 Posted May 22, 2020 It was on the old forum when it was changed. 10 years? My memory SUCKS now and it's getting worse everyday but I do remember changing it. You vultures might end up with a good score when I soon forget that I even collect O&R stuff, and then the O'lady puts it all up for sale. 1 1 JUST O&R and CNew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #9 Posted May 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Wallfish said: You vultures might end up with a good score when I soon forget that I even collect O&R stuff, and then the O'lady puts it all up for sale. Probably a high chance this vulture wouldn't be able to buy any of them, most sales of collections on ePay are always US only and the other vultures usually buy them all up before I see them. My memory must be bad too, there is an early starter sitting on the shelf & I cant remember what it belongs too, it might end up on my Kenco pump if I don't' remember soon. David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JUST O&R 237 #10 Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 11:20 AM, Wallfish said: My handle comes from the coil side as well but they obviously could be switched. Not sure why I thought that would be simply to figure out. ( some people are left handed) On 5/22/2020 at 11:35 AM, Wallfish said: You vultures might end up with a good score when I soon forget that I even collect O&R stuff, and then the O'lady puts it all up for sale. We went through this before we are birds of prey 2 Wallfish and CNew reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #11 Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, JUST O&R said: On 5/22/2020 at 4:20 PM, Wallfish said: My handle comes from the coil side as well but they obviously could be switched. Not sure why I thought that would be simply to figure out. ( some people are left handed) It's shown fitted on both sides in the manual, I don't have any original combined manuals that cover the four Comet Tote'N Tools, there are two versions (still looking), the C/Saw did come with a manual that only covers the C/saw. The other version of the Comet manual below was originally posted by @neons . David P.S. the only Comet tool I'm missing is still the chainsaw, OK I don't have the Comet drill but do have a much later Drillgine version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #12 Posted May 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, factory said: P.S. the only Comet tool I'm missing is still the chainsaw, OK I don't have the Comet drill but do have a much later Drillgine version. Im in a similar boat with the Drillgine. I have an early model in red but I don’t know if it was technically part of the Comet group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #13 Posted May 24, 2020 It started as just a surface cleaning and then all the sudden there’s this big pile of parts The unit had a really strong smell of cigarette smoke, it’s amazing that even metal soaks that in. I should have this all apart today and will give everything a good clean and lube. Not sure if I’ll try to start the engine when I’m done, probably not. This one has the plastic bearings so no need to risk it. There’s just something satisfying about knowing the engine will run though, even though it’s mainly eye candy for display. It also looks like it was exposed to something slightly corrosive so the paint is’t going to clean up to pristine when it’s done but it’ll still look nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #14 Posted May 25, 2020 And just like David and John are always cautioning - this is exactly why it’s so important to remove all the old crumbly air filter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #15 Posted May 25, 2020 A Comet drill would have be badged Tote'n Tools. Same for the circular saws too. Think I actually had one of those drills but sold it because the drill wasn't in very good condition compared to the others I had. That was way back in the day and now wish I had just changed the tanks and kept the Tote'n Tools decal on one. They seem to be very rare Funny how that happens once ya get started on one. Bet you're getting a lot faster at them by now anyway so might as well just open them up. Yup, clear as day it was run and sucked in the filter foam. There shouldn't be any issues running them with the plastic bearing cages and especially after going through it. It seems to me they only fail after long use, hard running or going well over 6300 rpm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #16 Posted May 25, 2020 I’m definitely getting faster with these unless there’s something a little unusual or tedious like the re-wire job on the Tiny Tiger. You’re absolutely right though, I got just enough stuff removed that it was better just to go all the way. Plus, it’s always nice to know what condition everything is in everything and to know it’s all put back together correctly. I may try to run it for a couple minutes when I’m done. Now that I’ve got it all apart I don’t think this one has seen a whole lot of use, insides look actually look pretty nice with very little carbonization. Probably ran just long enough and without water to ruin the pump and then off to the shelf... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
factory 487 #17 Posted May 25, 2020 23 hours ago, CNew said: Im in a similar boat with the Drillgine. I have an early model in red but I don’t know if it was technically part of the Comet group. 12 hours ago, Wallfish said: A Comet drill would have be badged Tote'n Tools. Same for the circular saws too. Think I actually had one of those drills but sold it because the drill wasn't in very good condition compared to the others I had. That was way back in the day and now wish I had just changed the tanks and kept the Tote'n Tools decal on one. They seem to be very rare The other red drill is branded Drillgine by Orion Manufacturing Co. I've seen at least one red Orion Drillgine in the UK, but Comet tools don't appear over here. David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #18 Posted May 26, 2020 Got it all back together after a complete tear down and rebuild. This thing has some serious compression now. Maybe I’ll have some time this week to fire it up for a few minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #19 Posted May 26, 2020 Nice! Did ya try the aluminum foil? The handle cleaned up nice. Manifold too if it's the same one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #20 Posted May 26, 2020 Yep, the foil worked great! The manifold is the original. It has a few little spots that are permanent but overall it cleaned up pretty well. Had to put heat shrink on all the coil wires since they were so stiff and brittle and cracked at the bends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites