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Thanks mate
 
 
 
 
Thanks Norm, yes wheelie bars could be handy
 
 
 
 
Thanks mate, I couldn't of done it without your help and bead/swage roller Thumbs:
 
 
 
 
Thanks Andrew, it will be good to catch up with you again..
 
 
 
 
Who looks nuts??
 
 
 
 
Thanks Chris, I'm mostly pleased with it.. I may or may not change a few of the lines on the fender pan at a later date.. We shall see..
 
 
For you viewing pleasure..... The latest video freshly uploaded this morning..
 

Looking the dogs danglies Ian

My eye's are a bit sore today, which is always a sign I've been doing lot's of welding!!  And yes I did use a mask
 
Starting with something small patch at the front..
 

 
 
Chopped..
 

 
 
And patched back up.. Only a bit longer..
 

 
 
Rear panels mostly tacked in place...  I was standing on the GT 14+2's seat to get this high up photo
 

 
 
Mostly welded up and hit with red oxide to get it all one colour.. When I first put the pan back on I wasn't sure I liked the shape or not..  Maybe the "dropped" bit's should of gone down at an angle? Maybe the top of the drops should have more curve?
Anyway, with a seat plonked on and a couple of exhausts sticking it looks a little better.. What do you guy's think?
 

 

 

 

Thanks Iain... My plan to get the back looking right?    See below
 
 
 
 
Ta muchly Andrew.. An armchair is an interesting thought, but there isn't the space.. The photo's make things look wider than they are..
 
 
This morning started with some cardboard templates to try and work out what would look right..
But before I could turn the cardboard into steel I need to A... Make the center bit first.. And B.. Find some steel to make it out of!
 

 
 
Treasures from the scrap pile
 

 
 
Adding a curve to the center bit.. Yes that is a broom handle I'm about to fold the metal around
As it turned out the curve was a tad too tight so it was reshaped around a scaffold pole..
 

 
 
As Nigel (thanks mate ) has a bead rolling machine I thought I'd put it to good use and roll the traditional Wh swage line in the back..
 

 
 
And now the part which ties the arches and center section together... I need to tweak the shape a little and add the swage line tomorrow, then it can be welded in...
I have to say I'm quite chuffed about how the back end has come together
 

 

 
 
A view from underneath.. The flanges will be staying as they will add a handy bit of strength to things once they are plug welded together. The flange will also be used for mounting the fender pan, keeping the mounting bolts nicely hidden away..
 

Thanks Doug, that's very kind of you..    For now I will give my home made discs a whirl and see how they work.. If they don't you may well get a PM
 
 
With both sides of the fender pan widened but not fully welded..
 

 
 
It was time to sort out the drop in the middle..  A dig through the pile of scrap metal on site produced a couple of metal shelves which were just the right thickness...
A bit of chopping and tack welding later and although not perfect the arches bit were looking good.. They do need to be angled down towards the front a bit more.
 

 
 
Inner arch panels fully welded..
 

 
 
Looking from the inside, I think that could be classed as good welding penetration
 

 
 
And here's how it looked by the end of yesterday. The arch extensions each side have been fully welded and all welds smoothed down. The bit's of steel across the top are only there to hold the arches square until I can get some strength added..
 

 

 


 
And I was viewer number on your vid the other day
It's not as wide as it looks in the photo's..
 
 
 
Thanks Neil
 
 
 
Ta muchly Iain

Trying out the GoPro on my helmet for the first time time. Didn't turn out bad, hope you guys enjoy!
 

So today I decided I'd have a look at the fender pan and seat mounting...
 
There is only one way to work out where the seat will go....
 
Yep, that feels about right
 

 
 
This is the start of the seat/fender pan mounting frame, I do need to add more but I need the fender pan to fit first so I can work out what's what..
 

 

 
 
Hhmm... The fender pan needs a bit of work to make it fit.. It need to be wider and the bit the seat bolts onto need to be about 6 inches lower!!
 

 

 
 
Let's tackle the widening bit first..
 
The original fender pan was very rotten in the middle and at the back, but I kept the "arches" parts should they come in handy one day
 
A 2 1/4 section was sliced from the spares arch and plonked roughly in place.. Due to fender pans having lot's of different curves and contours a few tweaks will be needed
 

 
 
A bit of cutting and welding later and the fender pan was wider one side with matching curves up top.. Oo-er missus
The front and back don't quite line up, but I can't work that bit out until the center of the fender pan is in place..
 

 

 
 
You can see how much wider it is compared to the left side.
 

 
 
And that Gent's is this build up to date other than.......
 
 
A video
 

Thanks Andrew, there isn't much planning going on, but plenty of thinking does happen    I don't think I'm working at a fast pace.. I would like to get more done faster than I am doing but my brain and body can only handle so much!
 
 
After lot's of turning the lump of green painted steel in the lathe in my last update turned into this spacer/brake hub thingy..
 

 

 
 
Next up in the lathe was a stripped down wheel hub..
 

 
 
Notched..
 

 
 
The spacer/brake hub thingy is a perfect fit
 

 
 
And now for the brake disc starting with this 5 inch square of 5mm thick steel...   I've no idea what the coating is or what they do during the manufacturing process but this steel is very hard stuff which is quite handy for a brake disc, but it makes it a right pig to turn on the lathe!
 

 
 
Getting there..
 

 
 
Almost there...
 

 
 
Spacer thingy and disc..
 

 
 
  It all fit's inside the wheel... Just
 

 
 
A hint of things to come...  I can't do anymore brake or steering work until some carbide cutting tips and some rather hefty rose joints turn up.. It will be nice to get away from the lathe for a while anyway
 

Hello Guys! 
 
I thought I'd start this topic off not only for me but for everyone else as well.... I was just wondering what shows are you guys exhibiting at this year..?
 
maybe it will give others ideas of where to go as well   

Thanks Mark.
 
 
 
Were never too old to learn Chris
 
 
 
Thanks Richard.. It's all guess work really
 
An update for you chaps..
 
Both front wheels are now re centered and fully welded up... Here's the second wheel.
 

 

 
 
And now onto something new for me.. Making a front end that is not only strong, handles and steers well, but also has brakes..
 
As you will of seen in my last update I toyed with the brakes idea, yesterday was the day to see if I could make it work..
But rather than cutting and turning steel I made a fake brake disc from scrap ally just to see what could be made to fit.. The disc is 5" diameter and 4mm thick..
 

 
 
Time to dig out a bit of history..    One of the twin caliper mounting plates..
 

 
 
And the "Stig Double pumper" both of which were part of my 6X6's ill fated brake steer system..
 

 
 
It's a tight, but a Qwakasaki Gpz305 caliper will just about fit in the wheel rim..
 

 
 
Even better is I can get the steering pivot points rather close to the wheel, the bottom one might even fit inside the wheel which will make for better steering
If you think of this wheel as the left side with the caliper at the rear inside and the ruler being the pivot point you will get the idea..
 

 
 
So now I know my brake idea can be made to fit I need a way of mounting the brake disc to the inside of the wheel hub...
Lot's of measuring and scribbling later, a plan...
 

 
 
Off cut's of steel are always handy to have about the place
 

 
 
The start of the first wheel hub brake adapter thingy.... And this Gent's brings the build up to date..
 

After a backfire and chomping on some teeth, she started.
 

Hi Iain, it will have a split brake pedal, but split front/back rather than sides on the rear...
 
 
 
 
Thanks James, it's getting not as fast as I would like, but any progress is good progress..
 
 
Even though I have not posted anything about Why Not for a few weeks work has slowly been happening..
 
When I left off at the end of the last update I had just started making new wheel centers.. Like so
 

 
 
Which eventually turned into this...
 

 

 
 
The raised bit is a nice tight fit in the center of the wheel which means the new wheel center is centralized in the center of the wheel
 

 
 
And from the outside it looks like this.. Please note the widened wheel rim was used for photographic purposes only and won't be going on Why Not..
 

 
 
Bolt holes drilled... The extra two holes were the result of me making a jig out of ally to drill the holes accurately....  The trouble with ally is it's rather soft to use as a jig and one of the new holes ended up a couple of mm's in the wrong place!
 

 
 
Time to break out the welder.. Lot's of tacks to stop it moving with heat..
 

 
 
Fully welded in..   A mixture of neat strong welds and not quite so neat but still strong welds
 

 
 
The blackish ring seen on the inside shows good heat penetration.. 
 

 
 
Next up was to remove the old wheel center...
 

 
 
Once it was cleaned up you could see the join between the new wheel center and the old metal, so I carefully ground out a V along the join and....
 

 
 
Back filled the V with plenty of weld
 

 
 
With the welds and the raised center carefully ground down to make it all smooth and level..
 

 
 
I could finally bolt a Wheel Horse wheel to a Reliant rear axle
 

 

After a backfire and chomping on some teeth, she started.
 

After a backfire and chomping on some teeth, she started.
 

After a backfire and chomping on some teeth, she started.
 

Just in time for Christmas!

Just in time for Christmas!

Just in time for Christmas!

The worst part. Decided to go for a lacquered bare metal finish because, well, it's easy and big fans of the rusty/patina look!




Final product.






Video soon. Hopefully.

top class once again= love it

Oh wow that's fantastic! Very nice build well done

The worst part. Decided to go for a lacquered bare metal finish because, well, it's easy and big fans of the rusty/patina look!




Final product.






Video soon. Hopefully.

Omg that looks fantastic