Darmic1 447 #1 Posted March 22, 2014 I've just won this one on the bay of E! At a very reasonable price too. A little drive down to just outside Bridport Dorset to collect tomorrow..... Here are the pictures from the auction site. 1 S1g reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 524 #2 Posted March 22, 2014 thatsa a natty looking mower , i wonder what age that is ? Berkshire to Bridport Dorset thats a fair old slap of a journey . Hope all is well with t6he mower when you get it , Good luck & safe journey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #3 Posted March 22, 2014 Hi Neil, its about 2 hours, but we will make it a day out too. Stop off somewhere along the coast, fish n chips on the beach, let the kids go mad for a bit, that sort of thing! Its a lovely bit of the coast too, from Portland to West bay is Chesil Beach. Then theres Lulworth Cove, Durdle Door....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #4 Posted March 23, 2014 Oh dear Darren looks like the bug has bit !! Saturn would be late 70's,I have probably got some info on them I will have a look Safe journey 1 Darmic1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #5 Posted March 23, 2014 Here's some information... 2 Darmic1 and S1g reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #6 Posted March 23, 2014 Thanks for that Paul, If you could email those over that would be fantastic! They will help with getting the correct colour and scheme as its been 'hammerited' Its now home in the garage...... had a really nice day out in the sunshine on the beaches too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #7 Posted March 23, 2014 Hello Darren Just emailed them mate Paul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #8 Posted March 24, 2014 nice find Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #9 Posted March 24, 2014 After cleaning out the fuel tank, carb and spark plug, removing the rust from the flywheel magnets and the magneto, it burst into life on the first pull! It runs really well with no nasty noises, smoke or any other problems. I will probably leave the engine alone, apart from a paint job. The rest of the mower has been stripped down. Here's a short video of it running http://youtu.be/jFnPX0sC-68 (excuse the audio, finger over the microphone) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #10 Posted March 24, 2014 This mower was stripped down today, I found only one problem with it, a weld has failed on the deck where 2 parts meet. I've dropped that off to be ally welded, be ready before Friday. The rest of the painted parts are now with the blasters to remove all the "hammerite" Here's the bits ready to be loaded........ 1 pmackellow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #11 Posted March 24, 2014 Does anyone have the correct name or code for the paint used on Landmaster's? I did find some blue paint under the Hammerite, Regatta Blue BS4800/5252 range, code 18E53 is a match its much darker than the pictures on the brochures, Paul posted. Also found some green under the Blue??? We have found a colour very close to the brochure colour called Arctic Blue, BS381 range, code 112. Also looking for the white as used on these Briggs engines, its quite a creamy white. Any help would be very useful. Here are a couple of pictures of the blue paint I found. This is the only decal I could find, I think Titch will have another little job in the not too distant future........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #12 Posted March 24, 2014 Titch has already done those easystart decals for me before, with this evenings new arrival I will be needing another one !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #13 Posted March 25, 2014 I can't help with your paint question I'm afraid, but that's a nice looking mower, never seen one like that before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #14 Posted March 25, 2014 Hi Ian, no problems on the paint! 'The look' is what made me want it, not having seen anything like it before. Its not got a great age to it, being 1970s, but its unusual....... a google search brings up only this particular mower, listed on ebay and a small amount of info........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #15 Posted March 25, 2014 Hi Darren, Can't help with the blue, but you can perhaps have a word with Fife Plooman on here, he had a 4hp HS Briggs painted up for one of his machines. He posted images on another Forum section here. Nice project by the way. Edit:- here is a link to one of several - http://myoldmachine.com/topic/618-merry-tiller-truck-ready-for-the-rallies/ 2nd Edit- or try this - http://www.stationaryengineparts.com/BS4800-10-B-15-Creamy-white-Ivory-Gardenia.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #16 Posted March 26, 2014 Cleaned and degreased the engine yesterday, came out ok. Will have to use a stripper to remove the old paint, but first I will have the paint mixed to match that on the engine. Having given up with the new 'Nitromors', its useless. My paint suppliers recommended this stuff. Its not on sale to the general public...... cough!!! An hour later, all the old paint is gone. The surfaces have been washed clean, dried and a quick wipe over with some thinners, just to make sure there's no grease on the surfaces. A short while later a couple of coats of etch primer are drying whilst I went to collect the deck from the welders and drop it off at the blasters. Having left the primer to dry under the heat lamp for a couple of hours, a coat or 3 of top coat are applied. Other parts are also ready for their new clothes, tank, bracket etc.... I gave the exhaust a coat of the VHT matt black too. Am really pleased with the paint finish....... Its really smooth and shiny!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #17 Posted March 26, 2014 Looking great Darren, top job !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #18 Posted March 26, 2014 Thanks Paul, Been reading up on this mower too. The brochures you kindly sent show the mower with a different engine, adjustable handles, a clutch to control the drive to the rollers and an exhaust which vents through the deck. Mine doesn't have any of these features, so I'm guessing mine is a cheaper version? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #19 Posted March 26, 2014 Yours might well be an earlier version, I will have another look in my literature, I don't think I have much more on the Saturn than what you now have but I will just double check... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #20 Posted March 26, 2014 Cheers for that Paul, I may have found another one, with all the above features on it. Will let you know how I get on...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #21 Posted March 27, 2014 It would make a good display, show the evolution of the mower... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #22 Posted March 27, 2014 That's what I was thinking too Paul..... Had a not so nice little surprise waiting for me in the garage this morning, a puddle of oil beneath the freshly painted Briggs! Its odd because I had the mower running for over 1/2 hour on Monday, no leaks. The engine has been sat on the bench until yesterday without so much as a drip........ Yet after painting it decided to make a mess!!!! Grrr So my plan to leave the engine alone resulted in the sump being removed to fit a new crank oil seal. Here is the offending bit...... after I exacted some revenge! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darmic1 447 #23 Posted March 27, 2014 Once the replacement seal was fitted and the sump refitted, things got a little bit worse. I attempted to 'blow in' the bolt heads and around the sump/block join. But the paint didn't want to behave. It reacted and blistered...... So out with the stripper and removed ALL of yesterdays work...... Still it kept me busy! Managed to get it primed and painted in 6 hours thanks to the heat in the garage. Here are some pictures once it was dry and had the Tank, Carb and Bracket refitted. one Query for you guys....... In the first of these photo's is a wire coming from beneath the flywheel towards the Carb. What does this wire do? where does it go? I did wonder if it was something to do with stopping the engine, as I can see no other use other than killing the spark? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #24 Posted March 28, 2014 Your not hanging about with this rebuild are you? The engine looks good I'm no small engine expert but I'm going along with your guess that the wire is a spark stop wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1g 579 #25 Posted March 28, 2014 The thin wire goes to a spring loaded tag on the throttle mechanism, the idea being when you shut it down it kills the spark. 1 Darmic1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites