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    Cub Cadet reacted to rolloman 1 in My Gravely Pair   
    Hi all on Saturday I pulled out from Hibernation these two Machines after a short time they both were running nicely .
    Both were given a  wipe down  with wd40  and some nice pictures taken for  the forums hope you like 








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    Cub Cadet reacted to Anglo Traction in A Mystery Roaring Twenties Refurb.......hopefully!   
    I was surprised it is still a significantly popular material, primarily due to it's durable stability.
     
    Having shoved the engine to the back of the bench with a lightly cleaned Flywheel cover fitted after tapping out a few dents-
     
     
    I moved on to tackling the Clutch. This is the very first Villiers version of a unit that fitted directly onto the output side of the crankshaft.
    It was called the 'Villiers Free Engine Clutch' designed to allow Motor bicycles to be push started (no kick starts then) and then draw in the clutch to allow the rider to bring the machine to a halt and mount before pulling away smoothly/coming to a halt with the engine still running.
    I had a real challenge finding anything on this unit until I found a sectional image of it, but with no nomenclature-
      
     
    It was a start, but I had much trepidation about attempting to dismantle it  without at least some info. I found only a brief reference to it in the books I had.
    After much searching, I actually found where the above pic was taken from.
    Some guy had taken it from an earlier publication (1st or 2nd edition) of 'The book of the Villiers Engine' by Cyril Grange .
    It described the whole thing, operation, dismantling and assembly in detail .
    Obsolete since the early 30s, I was on a 'no hoper' with spares.
    So I set to and began stripping it out. Major job trying apply forces to undo the Bell cover (N) despite having Knurling to show it was only hand tightened.
    Tried to release spring pressure on the plates by adjusting the cable tension, but overdid it and the cable pulled out of the aged nipple inside.
    Succeeded with same process as the Flywheel removal and used 'Sisal rope' with a tourniquet and injected some oil where upon all came apart.
    Multi layers of alternate steel and Bronze plates transfer the drive loads (7 of each) some are damaged and broken (not clear how?) -

     
    All removed and retained in their respective positions for cleaning and inspection, so they all go back the same way.
    A broken and bent plate was clearly put back and used like it, as wear is visible. Lot of work to make new ones, so will flatten and repair them as needed-
     

     
    Bronze plates are the 'Drivers' and steel ones are 'Driven'. I had dearly wanted to strip the Counter shaft completely,
    but it is impossible to release the Clutch body and it's retaining nut from the tapered end of the shaft-
     

     
    So I am having to work around the assembled shaft parts in situ for now. Maybe when/if it has been run for a while, it may ease up?.
    Cleaned all the constituent parts and quite impressed with the design. Felt Oil seal is rotted where the cable lead out exits, but will try and insert a new one-
     
     
     
    Cable adjuster spanner flats are rusted to nearly round,  so made a new one with lock nut-
     
      
     
    Aged it by oil staining and roughing it up with a few burrs
     

     
    Confident I can get this bit working as it should, so onto the next bits 
      
      
     
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet reacted to rolloman 1 in Holder ED11   
    Hi all Yet some more pictures of exhibits for 2019,  My Holder ED11 Single axle tractor with Butterfly Reversible plough and 3rd wheel and seat,  had it a long time too  also again 2 owner from new. Powered by a  Sachs 500 Two stroke diesel of 9 hp water cooled thermo syphon no pump 4 forward and 1 reverse , It runs like a Clock I havent found any of these in the uk so far hope you like it i love it    




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    Cub Cadet reacted to Anglo Traction in A Mystery Roaring Twenties Refurb.......hopefully!   
    Only too aware Ray that running clearances in engines need to be as recommended to avoid nasty noises and disintegration. Just a matter of cleaning the old dry oily dirt
    off with scrapers and soft wire brushes, then finishing with a bit of soft scouring pad. It's not super polished, as I don't want it looking new.
     
    Starting handle in the previous post is reassembled, greased the tubing/handle before pressing back on. ready for painting.
    Returned to checking out the ignition bits to see what was needed. Having obtained the HT Coil and Lead, I started on the Points Box and when I opened it up,
    I found it surprisingly tidy-
     

     
    Clearly, towards the end of it's working life, it was opened up quite a lot judging by the scratches on the bright, heavy nickel plated lid. 
    Repairs had been attempted by the use of hard (red) sealing wax to act as insulation under the screw head. The small insulating bushings were originally made of 'Ebonite',
    a hard vulcanised rubber shaped under high pressures. These had broken and cracked under the screws, but the spacer bushings underneath the plate were ok.
    I set about making new flanged bushings that would fit with the engine's age, and I remembered I had a rod of 'Tufnol' from the 50s that was my Father's.
    Good stuff this, but never machined it, so did some checking up first. Also found this Ad from the mid 1930s-
     

     
    This stuff was being made before the company was formed and is used on the 'Heel' of the breaker points on this engine (which may need replacing).
    The rod is surprisingly close tolerance in diameter ( 0.001" under 1/2") and dead straight. This version is known as 'Carp'.
    Fine woven cotton fabric tightly rolled, soaked in resin and pressed until set. Cut a piece off, set it in the Baby lathe and turned down to outer diameter-
     

       
    Clearance drilled for 4BA Screws, then turned down each one to 1/4" (6.35mm) and parted off. I used white spirit as a lubricant and helped reduce
    the dust level (mask and vacuum used).  Cleaned up the part machined cast brass Points box. 
    The wires are all still good. Finished bushes seen here and re-using the original spacers-
     
       
     
    The worn breaker heel (circled in the above) on the original points arm can be fabricated from this tufnol if I find the wear is too great for points adjustment.
    The arm and both contacts have so little wear, that I only had to lightly mirror polish the Platinum faces. Virtually no pitting, which tells me that the condenser
    was working as it should when last run. I plan to get this running with all these parts initially. 
     
    Will attempt some repairs to the enamelled badge that fits in the Flywheel cover. Also need to repair the worn slots in the lightly cleaned up cover-
     
           
     
       
     
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    Cub Cadet reacted to Anglo Traction in MF7E Refurb project   
    Good luck Ewan,  I'll be following your progress .  
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from HeadExam in MF7E Refurb project   
    Thanks Alain! yes, as you say there is no engine spec number decal, the small hp decal is present and after scratching off the paint we can determine that it is a 7hp model. 
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet reacted to rolloman 1 in Another tractor out for 2019   
    Hi all another Tractor out for the rallies ,  now fitted with Rubber Tyres for the first time in years .Still quite a handfull even on Rubbers .                                                                Lovely sounding Two Stroke Engine 3.5 hp  only second owner from new born in 1947 and supplied by A M Russell Edinburgh .to a Market Garden in Denny Falkirk            Question should this be painted our preserved as is ,thanks for your comments 



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    Cub Cadet reacted to HeadExam in MF7E Refurb project   
    Here is the engine manual and a Massey 7E page so you can see original tyres and paint  http://www.simplicityva.com/ymf/executive.html  .You probably don't have the Kohler spec and serial number decal that was originally on the engine so you will have to look closely at the TP manual and find what sump, generator, air breather, rope start or electric start or both and other parts that were particular to your engine, by doing so you maybe able to determine the original 7 hp Kohler variant Duro Corporation installed into the Massey 7E. I would say it is real possible that it is a spec number of 2801 or very close to that. The TP manuals allow you to look up the spec number and cross reference which parts were used on your tractor.
    K161-L161_7HP_TP1053A.pdf
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    Cub Cadet reacted to 4x4forks in MF7E Refurb project   
    Cracking looking machine . Should keep you out of trouble for a while 
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    Cub Cadet reacted to Stormin in MF7E Refurb project   
    You going to do a full refurb, Ewan, or just a sympathetic rebuild.
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    Cub Cadet reacted to Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    These little tractors look ace, I would love to find one some day.
    I'll enjoy following this!
     
    Ah I didn't realise this was you Ewan lol
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Westie1 in MF7E Refurb project   
    Afternoon all, After a few busy months I finally had the chance to make a start on the massey! The aim is to get it running for a show late in July.
     
    Heres some before photos in case you forgot
     

     

     

     

     
    First job was to get the front up on some axle stands, remove the hood and front wheels. The steering needs some work as everything is very worn.
     

     

     

     
    it needs some serious degreasing as well so the engine was next to come out, it also helps to have the engine on a bench as it will need a partial strip down.
     

     

     

     
    here you can see just how worn the axle is, it is a very lightweight casting and unfortunately it is a bit twisted.
     

     
    Next I made a new bush for the axle, should work just fine.
     

     
    after a bit of cleaning up. the original paint is in excellent condition, just a shame someone painted over it.
     

     

     
    These are going to require some attention at some point.
     

     
    On closer inspection, one of the engine mount holes has cracked, just visible above, now welded up.
     

     
    The idler pulley and steering column was removed and then everything given a good clean. 
     

     
    For a 56 year old machine, i'm surprised nothing is rusted solid, didn't even have to use any heat. 
     
     
    Next job when i'm home next is to replace the bearing in the idler pulley and sort out the worn steering components.
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    Cub Cadet reacted to CNew in Ohlsson & Rice: Military Engine Display   
    Finally had a chance to mount one of my military engines to a tank from an old Dyna-Mite generator. Added a nice piece of quarter sawn oak for stability. Now I can fire it up without the engine running off.  I don’t think I’ll keep it set up this way long term but it does make for a convenient way to test engines after rebuilding.



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    Cub Cadet reacted to Anglo Traction in A Mystery Roaring Twenties Refurb.......hopefully!   
    Called a deflector piston. Pretty heavy as well. weighs in at 520 grams without the Pin. Villiers used them a lot up to about 1934. then went flat top on most 2 stroke motorcycle engines when they modified the size and layout of the porting.
    Still used deflectors on the 79 Mk1 & 98cc Midget Mk's 2 & 3 engines which ended up in mowers etc like in my Yellow Mower challenge Atco-

     
    The Skirt ring must have been discontinued in this 269cc MkV during 1922, as the donor engine later of the same year had the same piston, but unmachined for the fitting of that ring.
     
     
     
    Thanks Ewan, It's making a pleasant change trying to save something that just under a hundred years old.
     
    Main parts of the power unit are back together now and feels nice with the movement-
     

     
    Working on the ignition bits now, but broke off to play with the all important starting handle. Pretty badly rusted up, but was able to dismantle into it's constituent parts.
    The top 3 parts in this pic, where the free turning hand grip tube was seized (frozen) onto the handle.  The lower part is one of the control arms which needs attention-
     

     
    I had to carefully cut the old piece of tubing off, as it was solid and beyond saving. Searched for a substitute and found some stainless tubing that would just about fit.
    Being sold in 100mm lengths, I asked  if I could have a piece 101.6mm (4 inches) and it arrived within 24hrs exactly 4 " long !!. Impressed.
    Went for stainless, as I reckoned the original was bright nickel plated steel. This will look ok. Initial clean up and prep required me to machine about 3 thousands of an
    inch off the 2 faces for the tube to fit on smoothly. Parts to finish and assemble. Even the Cotter Pin was nickel plated, but needed a new nut-
     
        
     
    Got some more machining to do before I finish the igntion bits.......tbc.  
     
        
     
     
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    Cub Cadet reacted to Alan in HALF a HORSE.   
    Thanks Ewan.    As said, I still need to get better photo's with all the decals fitted, especially the dash panels.
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Anglo Traction in A Mystery Roaring Twenties Refurb.......hopefully!   
    Nice work Richard!
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    Cub Cadet got a reaction from Alan in HALF a HORSE.   
    Absolutely fantastic job! Definitely something to be proud of 
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