Stormin 4,458 #1 Posted August 23, 2015 The C-81 has been playing up for some time now. Would idle really nice. But open it up and it would frap and bang and die, unless you shut it off quickly. Fuel starvation symptoms. Though could be ignition ones. Not really had time to sort it, as the C-121 had precedence. Decided to see what I could find yesterday. I'd already tried another carb some time ago. The original is a fixed main jet, while the other is adjustable, but slightly smaller bore. Also the original has a plastic float while t'other is brass. Coil had been swapped and another fuel pump, (Courtesy of The Showman) fitted and tried. No joy. Checked for sticking points. OK there. So carb off again, cleaned out, though float bowl clear. Blown and poked and float level checked. Float bowl gasket made from two 'O' rings and carb replaced. No change and the float bowl still leaked. The previous process was repeated several times during the afternoon and early evening, with no improvement. Finally decided to call it a day out of consideration for my neighbours. Those next door anyway. I like them. The others are sort of in-laws. The C-81 is not the quietest of things as some will testify. This morning decided to fit the other carb. Cleaned it out, checked it over, made a gasket and fitted it. Some tweaking of cable adjustment and fired up.Things still the same, though you could open it up a tad more before things went pop and bang. Idle mixture was carefully set and the engine put, putted nicely. Main jet mixture screw twiddled a bit and things marginally improved. SWMBO took the dogs for a walk and next door went out. So fired up and ran the revs up while twiddling the main jet screw. Eventually I got it running reasonably well. Not perfect, but much better. I think a silencer that silences may improve things, so one of those is on the to do list. I'll give it a run out tomorrow and see how it performs. Oh yes! The float bowl leaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1g 579 #2 Posted August 23, 2015 Have you reground the exhaust valve? I'd have suppisions that it may be leaking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #3 Posted August 23, 2015 Engine's not been touched. Got good compression and doesn't burn oil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #4 Posted August 24, 2015 fingers crossed Norm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1g 579 #5 Posted August 24, 2015 Engine's not been touched. Got good compression and doesn't burn oil. If it was mine playing up like that I'd pop the head off and regrind the valves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #6 Posted August 24, 2015 If it was mine playing up like that I'd pop the head off and regrind the valves. I didn't want to be first to say that, but I agree........... It probably hasn't ever been off/de-coked in it's life Norm. Go on, give it a Birthday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #7 Posted August 24, 2015 I just might do that this winter. Although the piston crown looks pretty clean through the plug hole. The Spitfire goes to a new home this week, so that'll free up a lot of space in the workshop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #8 Posted October 9, 2015 Well I think I've finally found the problem. Swapped the condenser over from the C-125. Now running as it should, full revs and no problem. I've done this before with no change in the bad running. The 81's condenser I put on the 125, expecting that to start playing up. It didn't. So I'm assuming the condenser was not earthing properly, even though the securing bolt was fully tight. I also tweaked the carbs and both have been given runs up the lane and all is now well. 4 Ian, nigel, diggerjames and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #9 Posted October 9, 2015 Good news at last! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #10 Posted October 10, 2015 That's good news Norm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites