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and I as well, seems to be easier to steer

Very nice machine. I doubt I'll ever see one over here, the nearest I might come is a Wheel Horse D-250 (Gutbrod 2500), but I would much rather have a 1032

The blue one appears to be missing the familiar Howards decal. Great video Joseph, sorting old tractors is like CSI forensics.

Is that a tooth bar in the background of the first picture?

I looked up the spec numbers on the Wheel Horse C-125, there were two. One was 47723D and the other was 44742D (the first two numbers designate the engine size 47, 12 hp 60, 14 hp) both listed the number 9 pan on the manual as the correct pan. The k321 and k341 came out several years after the k301 and therefore have slightly different numbers for the same part, but as long as you use the TP manual to reference your spec number you can find the right part, even if it has more than one part number.

I like that the TP manuals allow you to use your spec number to find the correct part for your particular engine variant

Thanks Richard, the decal maker sent me another decal, so alls well. I'm working on another XL-100 series saw of similar in design, this one a 1975 XL-123, complete rebuild, piston, rod, rings, bearings, seals, fuel lines, etc.

The Kohler TP manual shows 47-199-08 for the Wheel Horse C-125 oil sump, but the 14 and 16 horse use the 47-200-02 number, but that is the right/same sump. The k321-k341 came out later and many of numbers changed even though the parts were the same

Here is the engine manual and a Massey 7E page so you can see original tyres and paint http://www.simplicityva.com/ymf/executive.html .You probably don't have the Kohler spec and serial number decal that was originally on the engine so you will have to look closely at the TP manual and find what sump, generator, air breather, rope start or electric start or both and other parts that were particular to your engine, by doing so you maybe able to determine the original 7 hp Kohler variant Duro Corporation installed into the Massey 7E. I would say it is real possible that it is a spec number of 2801 or very close to that. The TP manuals allow you to look up the spec number and cross reference which parts were used on your tractor. K161-L161_7HP_TP1053A.pdf

Great piece of History, I'd leave it be. It might need a more aggressive tread or tyre to pull the plow

I have become aware that many do not have the Kohler TP manuals that show all the variants on different Kohler engines and how to find the right part. The best way to tell is to download the Kohler TP manual on each engine model (or your engine) and compare part numbers, There are two sump pans for the K301 and K341 that interchange, but there are many more that don't. It depends on what tractor and engine as much as the horsepower . The TP manuals show all the various parts used on each engine i.e. all the starters and generators used on the all the different k301 variants, all the oil pans, carburetors, dipsticks, alternators, air breathers, etc. There is also a numerical system incorporated in the TP manuals that allows you to know what part was used on your variant by the use of the spec number that is on the engine. This is all basic reference 101 and saves much times and money in finding parts that actually fit. Attached is the TP manual for the Kohler K301. This manual covers dozens of K301 variant engines and if the "spec number" sticker is missing from your engine there is a website that you can find it. If anyone one wants TP manuals for other Kohler engines let me know Kohlerl_K301_12HP_IPL_TP2097.pdf K321_14HP_TP-691-B.pdf K341_16HP_TP-983-B.pdf

The best way to tell is to download the Kohler TP manual on each engine model (or your engine) and compare part numbers, There are two sump pans for the K301 and K341 that interchange, but there are many more that don't. It depends on what tractor as much as what hp. The TP manuals show all the various parts used on each engine i.e. all the starters and generators used on the all the different k301 variants, all the oil pans, carburetors, dipsticks, alternators, air breathers, etc. There is also a numerical system incorporated in the TP manuals that allows you to know what part was used on your variant by the use of the spec number that is on the engine. This is all basic reference 101 and saves much times and money in finding parts that actually fit. Attached is the TP manual for the Kohler K301. This manual covers dozens of K301 variant engines and if the "spec number" sticker is missing from your engine there is a website that you can find it. If anyone one wants TP manuals for other Kohler engines let me know Kohlerl_K301_12HP_IPL_TP2097.pdf

What is the serial number including the prefix? Thanks

The Jonsered appears to be 49SP http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/084bb064dcc6912b88256b69007e2ffa?OpenDocument The Danarm is a very nice old saw as well, http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/9185446ae58f5c7c88256b4e0066f91a?OpenDocument . The Pro Mac 60 is another nice old saw, http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/ab2c4eb6cab868aa88256c2e0075f710?OpenDocument . The Mac338 is a much newer saw that only appears old. about circa 2000

TSP is tri sodium phosphate a water based alkaline cleaner (strong soap, no bubbles), whats the red saw, cant see it

That is a Homelite C-51, made between 1964-1967. Here is some information http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/b7dfa302dafd0c9188256b7c001833a1?OpenDocument Parts are still easily attainable. The C stood for convertible because these saws often were used as power plants for post hole augers, ice augers, power generators and water pumps, they also had a clutch attachment to change from a direct drive chain to a gear reduction chain. These C series saw were way overbuilt structural and while heavy for the hp, were reliable over many more years than most saws. The C-51 was 77 cc's, the larger C-71 was 80.5 cc's and the C-91 was 85.5 cc's. Sand blasting with walnut hulls will prep the saw for paint and I recommend a cleaning in a alkaline based cleaner such as TSP or equivalent.

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I doubt if there is any book or literature on restoring saws. I collected over 40 old Homelite chainsaws and over 100 Homelite chainsaw manuals, then collected new spare parts for all of them. Cleaning and paint prep on magnesium is different than other metals, but painting a 2 stroke machine that needs to be gas and oil resistant requires a epoxy clear top coat.

It is really disheartening to see much of the media has turned toward tabloid journalism. The profession has really take a downturn. The smearing of people no matter what their their political affiliations are is despicable and lowdown, and it seems that there is no end to this, because the fines these papers pay pale in comparison to the profit they generate. I'm not sure if the media is biased toward one side or the other, my honest inclination is they create division to increase profits.

Doesn't matter where you live there seems to be very little honesty and integrity in journalism field https://www.dailywire.com/news/42683/newspaper-agrees-pay-melania-trump-substantial-ashe-schow?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

I wouldnt do business with a twice convicted child molester, but others can do what the wish. Its been a matter of public record for almost a decade. https://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/MO53885899/Brian-Keith-Miller.html

Thank you! There were at least 3 and probably 4 colors on the blue saws. Early XL--12s and Super XLs, then later XL-12s. Super XLs, XL-700, XL-901, 150s, XL-101 and XL-102s were slightly darker. Then later on there was a Super XL Special Edition and Old Blue that were different from one another as well. There are two Pontiac, blues when mixed match the late 60s blue saws, but you need to use one in none metallic finish to match it perfect. I have worked with colors for over 30 years.

I think our nation is going through the same type of upheaval, but the States being a younger country, our actions are more like toddlers and yours more like defiant teenagers. the days of statesmanship and compromise seem to be long gone for these days we have people on both sides that refuse to give in on anything. They act immature and stomp their feet, hold their breath until they get what they want. Our parents were supposed to teach us that we don't always get our way, those lessons are no longer meaningful. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46885828