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There's an Aqua Bug outboard out there that had no plastic cover or tank when it was bought so I added a drillgine type tank. Those outboards actually look more old school cool without the cover and that one always got attention when taken to the shows for display. Probably because everything is visible. Think I'll start with that one and pull it apart and rebuild or replace that engine. Maybe then a Mini Motor and another Aqua Bug
I also have a rare Polaris Power Pole outboard still sitting in a box and all parts from shipping. It's the same tool/engine that @Laserscottman had when he made the famous carb tutorial thread years back. Can't remember how deep he went into it but think he went through everything on it except for actually rebuilding the engine. Work is a bit slow this year so might as well stay on a roll getting some O&R stuff done that's been on the back burner for too many years.
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I'd have to figure it out.
Like change engines on a Drillgine or TT.
The cranks don't have the slots in the little taper so it's more limited otherwise I could do a circular saw. Plus some of the tools are the early style engines so the coils are different. Don't think I have any tools that don't have engines on them so might just rebuild some of those that haven't been done yet and keep these as spares.
Do you happen to know what crank end type was used for the outboards? I'd have no problem swapping engines on those if the crank is right.
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My neighbor across the street said he would give it go to make some.
Let me know if anyone wants any
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I'll need to do something. Wondering if one of those Octura carbs will work with gasoline. That would make for a quick easy setup for the carb test stand
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Only Jan and already got 4 engines rebuilt so far this winter. The Amp Champ in the other thread is done, the snow blower gearbox engine in this thread, plus these other 2 in the pic with the blower engine.
The guy across the street is going to spin up some of the recoil handles on his wood lathe.
So now it's time to start putting these rebuilt engines on some tools and then get started rebuilding those engines or I might keep those tool engines together with the tools. IDK yet
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I have a couple of the newer ball type handles
The guy across the street has a wood lathe so I'll see what I can do.
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Yes. But for $25 I'd rather spin one with my fingers and cut it with my teeth.LOL
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Does anyone have any extra older style recoil handles for sale or trade?
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I'll only put some fuel into the plug hole just to fire them off once they're rebuilt but haven't done it yet. Maybe I should consider making a test stand with a remote carb setup kind of like a Turbair Tot uses. Test run them then drop a new carb top on afterwards.
Just looked a bit deeper into the NOS stash parts and found 8 more sets of rings, some rods and a few other items so I'm going to rebuild some more. I have a bunch of NOS crank seals too but I don't have any new pistons so hopefully I find good pistons when opening them. Most are fine and I've yet to find any that have bad or worn bearings when opening them up for rebuild. I don't pick the engines that are beat on and clearly past their prime for doing rebuilds and just use those engines for parts and hardware etc.
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guess it would help to put the gas tank on. ooops! Good thing I looked at the pic on the screen
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Had some time again today since the snow and ice put a damper on the scheduled job.
Recoil and carb is done for this one plus did the gearbox too. I use the Lubriplate engine assembly grease instead of oil in the gearboxes. It will liquefy when it's running and slightly solidify again helping to keep it from being sucked into the engine seal or leaking. It does remain partially oil too but it's easy enough to squeeze more in when needed or if necessary. Even a thicker grease like JD Cornhead grease will work or 00 grease.
Everything about this engine is in very good condition and it went together nice and smooth. I'll probably find a nicer air cleaner for it too. I don't run gas through the carbs one they're done because it will gum up just like the old ones do after a while. A few drops in the plug hole and Viola, she fires and still fine for long storage.
Seb T ghosted me on the gearbox and engine and haven't heard anything back since emailing him, so I'm kinda happy to just keep it for the Polaris Power Pole Snowblower. Didn't really want to disable one of my tools and turn it to parts anyway. But I would sacrifice it just to see one of those cars running.
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I don't have one of those yet. It's all toothbrushes, Q-tips and a small wire brush.
But I do have some attachments for a Dremel tool too. A small polishing wheel with compound helps for some paint, cleaning up and shining the exhaust collector and rusty condensers. Wire wheel for heavily rusty stuff too like the coil laminates.
For the cleaner you can use a glass jar for the parts and fill the tub with water. For the jar I'm thinking use lacquer thinner as the cleaner. I just don't know if it darkens the aluminum or not. The citrus cleaner will if left too long.
This Amp Champ will probably go up for sale if anyone is interested in it. I have 2-3 others and one is practically NOS or it is NOS so it's a better example for my collection. Just need to start letting some stuff go.
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So not too bad. Just about 24 hours later, completely cleaned, new head, piston, piston rings, gaskets, O-rings and reassembled. Finally getting to use those induction gaskets Clint sent me a couple years ago! Might even be longer than that. LOL
Still need to do the upper carb and recoil. Think there's about 4-5 recoils that need to be done, They're not fun for me.
Tried looking at the Generator and removed the small front small bracket. Probably just going to go with a thorough cleaning. The way they manufactured it with soldered wires after installing the fixtures makes it difficult to disassemble without messing up some of those hard dried wires. They're not as bad as a TT but I know this generator worked too. Not worth the chance of screwing it up.
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UGH
Got her all assembled and then saw this, the star washer that goes on the rod bearing. Pulling apart now.
Plus had the bearings fall, move in the cage so the shaft wouldn't drop in all the way! Those plastic cage bearings are MUCH easier to deal with compared to the steel cages.
Trying to get my desk cleared for work tomorrow. LOL
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The piston and head on this engine had some scoring so they'll need to be replaced.
Notice the size of ring gaps on the old one (left) compared to the other. That's a lot more blow by
Thought I had a NOS head but couldn't find it. Found a nice one in the stash parts anyway along with a nice used piston. It'll get new rings and should be good to go. Sometimes the rings are a PITA to get off the piston.
The ring gaps should NOT be lined up near each other for final installation (like they are in the pic).
To quick test them, insert the piston into the head and blow through the spark plug hole. The difference from a bad one to the other is very noticeable so it's instantly known when one is bad. It's not a very scientific method compared to doing all of the precise measuring but these little things are not going on the space shuttle. Even the old one would've run but just not have the same performance.
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Started right after posting that pic so it took about an hour-ish to completely disassemble the engine. Not too bad as just recently doing one helped quite a bit.
Now for the 3+ hours to clean it all up! LOL
The generator section will start after the engine is done
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Pulled this one off the shelf to clean up and rebuild for the next project. It's in fairly nice condition so no painting need.
That's one of the nice things about these little engines. It's cold outside so these can be done inside and right on my office desk where it's warm.
I use a citrus based cleaner so no fumes inside the house but I've been thinking about getting an ultrasonic cleaner to drop all the parts in. There's so many little nooks and crannies on these things so cleaning it is about 80% of the work time involved time to rebuild an engine.
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Offered it to seb T for that French car if he wants it. Otherwise it'll go back on the Polaris Power Pole snow blower it came from.
Cleaning all the parts is what really takes the most time. So many little nooks and crannies so went through about 50-60 Q-tips and quite a few paper rags. I need to get an ultra sonic cleaner
That Florida Flywheelers show is on my bucket list for a while. Might be able to pull it off for the February show if work isn't crazy busy.
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Rebuilt that engine and cleaned up that gearbox. New seal and gears look very nice.
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Got the engine done and mostly assembled but still need to do carb top half and recoil. Has a nice hot blue spark just spinning by hand and very good compression. Didn't need to do rings as everything with the cylider and piston was clean and good like this engine had very low hours.
Definitely not as fast doing this as I used to be. And spent a bunch of time looking for escaped bearing rollers! LOL I let a few out by mistake when not paying attention.
Feeling old as I can't see very well and the hands aren't as steady putting those little bearing rollers back in.
I'll wait to grease the gearbox.
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Yeah, it's been pretty slow here too for the O&R stuff. It definitely helps to get inspired by other's projects, just like I'm all excited and inspired to see one of those cars in action.
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Happy New Year!
This is a model J gearbox engine from a Polaris Power Pole snow blower. Recently member @seb T was asking about a gearbox for a Devillaine Ouragan car. So I had the engine out anyway and needed to pull the gearbox to verify if it would fit his engine. Well I might as well rebuild everything.
Gearbox with a new seal and gaskets. Plus the entire engine just in case he is interested in a completely rebuilt package. Got everything cleaned up tonight. Tomorrow I'll remove the head and re-ring the piston and put her back together.
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Email sent
I found an NOS shaft seal and installed it. The clutch, bearings and gears are in perfect condition and look like new.
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I do have the correct gearbox and willing to sell it to you at reasonable cost in order to help you get that car going. I want to help you!
I do not want to sell it if you are not going to actually use it to get that car running because giving up this gearbox disables one my tools, the snowblower. I would prefer to keep if it never gets used on that car and just sits on a shelf because these particular gearboxes are not easy to find.
As far as making an engine mount, do you have the skills and tools to make something like that? Or any other missing parts like the pulley? I can probably help with some of that too if needed but measurements from the car and detailed pictures are required.
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