The Fife Plooman 632 #1 Posted February 5, 2015 Hi all Starting to put together some hints for all interested in ploughing for fun Here is what we should aim for The Gutbrod and others rear wheels can been adjusted to suit but others you have to put a slimmer tyre on the back or use spacers but it is important before we go any further that this can be achieved The plough must be parallel with the ground the tip of the ploughshare and the heel of the plough must be on the ground with a hollow in-between to create what is called suck I will take a pic of this to give you an idea Hope you can follow me so far Thanks George S 5 OldBuzzard, Triumph66, HeadExam and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #2 Posted February 5, 2015 Great idea, George. I'll follow this with interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #3 Posted February 5, 2015 George, Really good info and photos. I look forward to seeing more details. Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slf-uk 914 #4 Posted February 6, 2015 With you so far George. I really appreciate you sharing this knowledge and I am looking forward to following. Iain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 215 #5 Posted February 6, 2015 Very good information so far George. I have a few ploughs myself but haven't plucked up the courage to enter any ploughing matches yet as I really don't know where to start. I look forward to any further information and tips you have. Tom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #6 Posted February 7, 2015 Hi all Thanks for comments,will be taking photos next weekend at charity match this will be of benefit to all, meanwhile look in your area there will be tractor ploughing matches, go along and ask questions take photos and build your knowledge,in some areas they hold horticultural matches Find out where. When you set up your Feering poles they must be in line ( photos next weekend}when you set them up then stand at one end look along the line you should only see the one nearest you,you have got it right If you get it wrong do not worry the aim is to get better and have fun Hope this keeps you happy I will be taking plenty of pics next week to show settings required to improve your plough and ploughing Thanks George G Horticultural-Rules-July-2012.doc 5 Triumph66, slf-uk, nigel and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #7 Posted February 7, 2015 Hi All Found one pic in my folders of what the plough should look like ,if you do not have this, where it shows the tip on the ground and the heel on the ground with a hollow in-between you will not get what they call suck and the plough will not stay in the ground If the ploughshare is worn and you try to lower the point to get the plough into the ground it will not work This is called dancing on its toes you will never keep your ploughing straight Another tip for the memory bank Thanks George G 4 OldBuzzard, slf-uk, Triumph66 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #8 Posted February 7, 2015 I be interested to see how my plough performs. If it all goes to bits, I can blame the plough and not me! Where the best place to buy parts for ploughs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #9 Posted February 10, 2015 Hi All Here are a couple of pics of my new project, Can you spot the difference,if it ploughs as good as it looks I will be very happy Cannot wait for Sunday Fun day 4 Triumph66, HeadExam, OldBuzzard and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #10 Posted February 10, 2015 I think your new plough will perform as good as it looks. Can I have your old one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #11 Posted February 10, 2015 Great looking working tractors, the Gutbrods. Look forward to seeing the action shots and I hope the weather holds for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauber1 51 #12 Posted February 11, 2015 I think the new plows going to be a winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #13 Posted February 11, 2015 Thanks for sharing your ploughing tips George, I hope to try some more ploughing at a show or two this year.. I can't do any worse than last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #14 Posted February 16, 2015 Douglas setting up feering poles this one is wrong this one is nearly right but end result is ok End result the throw out is spot on I tried out my plough but no success but we know what is wrong{not enough dig} can be fixed But did not stop a good day one or two pictures of the day the ransome mg was trialling a 2 furrow plough The wheel horse was trialling a ransome single furrow needs more grip. This was our attempt to add weight and it worked HA HA Ransome making nice job Gutbrod with own plough on making a good job a new member with a Kubota tractor and Clifford plough I will be back to the drawing board and make some adjustments hope you like 7 OldBuzzard, slf-uk, HeadExam and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slf-uk 914 #15 Posted February 16, 2015 George, looks like a fun day. When you said that your new plough did not have enough dig, is this the depth the plough goes into the ground? Thanks Iain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #16 Posted February 16, 2015 Compare photo 3 with photo 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #17 Posted February 16, 2015 George, Thanks for sharing the photos of the ploughing competition. Cheers Andrew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #18 Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Love the pictures AND the attention to detail. I've tried to explain the importance of tyres both front and rear and their size and alignment to many of my friends with (<)moderate success. Ploughing with a front and rear turf tyre even with chains is less than optimal, but it can be just as bad when extremely wide "show" agricultural tyres are used on the rear and the same wide turf tyres are used on the front, however it continues to be done and filmed at plough events, at least in the states, very embarrassing. Ideally a small garden tractor should try to reduce the ratio of the height and width of farm tractors tyres, that means a tall narrow tyre both front and rear and in alignment with each other. The Wheel Horse guys are better than most (in the states), probably due to the fact that the tractors have been around longer than most other American machines and their owners actually use these machines to plough. On my Ariens GT14H I have 25x.8-12 ITP 589 tyres on the rear and 4.00-10 tri-ribs on the front. Most small farm tractors use between a 10-14 inch wide rear tire width on a 24-28 inch rim, and a 5-7 inch wide front tyre on a 15 inch front rim, so my 8" wide rears and 4" wide fronts are about 1/2 size, well within ratio. I see many people (over here) using 26x12-12 or 23x10.50-12 agricultural tyres on the rear and 16x6.50-8 turf tyres, or EVEN 16x6.50-8 five rib tyres on the front and attempting to plough. The funny thing about wide tyres is that many will put a 12 inch or 10.5 inch wide tyre on a 7.5, 8, or 8.5 inch rim, which will never result in the advertised tyre width, meaning a waste of money. BTW, the picture of the ITP589 is that of a wider tyre than mine, they just use one picture. Edited February 17, 2015 by HeadExam 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #19 Posted February 17, 2015 Hi All Some thing different ,You judge the Finish have fun Thank you 2 OldBuzzard and HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #20 Posted February 17, 2015 I think a toss up 'tween 3 and 5. 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #21 Posted February 17, 2015 To my eye, I think photo 5 is the 'winner'........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eck 18 #22 Posted February 22, 2015 Here are some photos from last weekend 4 OldBuzzard, Stormin, nigel and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #23 Posted February 27, 2015 Hi All Next stage of my new plough another phase bought this of fleebay when it arrives I will see what can be done hope you like 4 nigel, slf-uk, Triumph66 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #24 Posted February 27, 2015 George, I saw that too. Be interesting to see how you will fit this to one of your Gutbrods. Do you know the make of it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #25 Posted February 28, 2015 Hi Andrew In the advert is said of an auto culto, will get more pictures when it arrives home , will keep you posted Thanks George S 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites