Stormin 4,458 #1 Posted May 19, 2016 A little while ago I acquired this '75 Raider 10 with a side discharge cutting deck.. Unfortunately the engine threw a wobbly when I had a go at starting it. See my thread, "Another for the Stable". Today I decided the remove the engine. So onto the bench. I got a little carried away. A few other bits got taken off as well, as the engine oil drained. I don't know if the way the engine is bolted to the chassis is correct. Looks a bit odd to me. But no doubt some one will know. Engine out. While I was taking the engine out, I decide to drain the gearbox as well. There was oil in, or had been at sometime. About a cupful of milky fluid came out, followed by a copious amount of clear water. I reckon the box was full of it. Rather agricultural exhaust system. And an even more agricultural draw bar. I like the way the rear fender hinges up. Handy storage compartment underneath. Someone has been rather handy with a welder. Or not as the case may be. Sorry about the photo quality. Too close with my camera. But you get the picture. There were bolts in there as well. And another bit of useful welding. Idler pulley welded on. There was one or two other bodges as well. Mixture of imperial and metric fastenings and pop rivets in place of split pins. Fortunately, the tin ware is for the most part, in good condition. So at end of play, this is how the Raider looks now. Rather than put this as a rebuild, I've put it in projects. The reason being some mods will be made. Also I haven't a clue how it will evolve. Could take quite a while. 4 minky, the showman, Alan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diggerjames 543 #2 Posted May 19, 2016 Loving it norm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #3 Posted May 19, 2016 This will be an interesting read, try thinking outside the box on this one Norm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #4 Posted May 19, 2016 It'll be nothing exotic. No more wheels or all wheel drive. Just something simple. I hope! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #5 Posted May 19, 2016 Good start! The engine goes on like that and bolts from the underside into the oil pan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #6 Posted May 19, 2016 I found that out when the front wheels came up when I tried to lift it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #7 Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, Stormin said: I found that out when the front wheels came up when I tried to lift it off. good for building upper body strength! 1 diggerjames reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #8 Posted May 19, 2016 Done well on your day off, i'll be watching this post with interest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #9 Posted May 20, 2016 Finished stripping it down today. Also opened up the engine. This how things are now. And what came out of the engine. The crank is lightly scored, so a regrind is need there. The bore looks ok, but a bit of a lip at the top. So new conrod, rings etc and a regrind, plus maybe a rebore. The sump had about 2mm of sludge in the bottom. When it had its last oil change is anyones guess. I think the engine will be shelved for now, as I may not be using it. Also looks like I'm going to have to open the gearbox. The gear lever will move for and aft, but not side to side. Anyway, with all the water that came out, I think I'd better take a look and give the internals a good clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #10 Posted May 20, 2016 Ouch, dont go buying bits for the engine till you speak to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #12 Posted May 20, 2016 There's a raider 10 engine on the bay norm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #13 Posted May 20, 2016 I'll rebuild this one sometime, thanks Nigel. I'll know it's ok then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #14 Posted May 22, 2016 Split the gearbox this morning. Not a pretty sight. A good layer of black sludge in the bottom. Gears and drive shafts covered in a layer of rust. Main bearings rough. I did manage to free the selectors and get three gears. So I reckon it's a total rebuild, with my metric conversion like the C-121. Not going to happen methinks. A visit to a friend today has produce some interesting parts, that with another engine I have, will make a fun special. 2 diggerjames and Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diggerjames 543 #15 Posted May 22, 2016 Tell us more Norm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #16 Posted May 22, 2016 Nope! Not yet anyway. 1 diggerjames reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #17 Posted May 22, 2016 You can see the tide line where the box was half full of water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 548 #18 Posted May 22, 2016 meh, seen photo's of worse gearboxes. still not a nice sight to be greated with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #19 Posted May 24, 2016 On 22/05/2016 at 7:48 PM, Stormin said: Split the gearbox this morning. Not a pretty sight. A good layer of black sludge in the bottom. Gears and drive shafts covered in a layer of rust. Main bearings rough. I did manage to free the selectors and get three gears. So I reckon it's a total rebuild, with my metric conversion like the C-121. Not going to happen methinks. A visit to a friend today has produce some interesting parts, that with another engine I have, will make a fun special. I hope you have not been encouraged to build something non standard and fun Norm? Sooo, what's the engine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #20 Posted May 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Ian said: I hope you have not been encouraged to build something non standard and fun Norm? Sooo, what's the engine? All will be revealed in time, Ian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #21 Posted May 27, 2016 Today I collected this rather sorry, engineless Huskvarna. Straight of the trailer and onto the bench. Started on it at 2pm and by 6pm I had the parts I want. The gearbox is a 6 speed and I believe you can change on the move. The wheel is being stubborn to remove, so has been give a good does of releasing fluid. 5 Aidan, nigel, Ian and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #22 Posted May 27, 2016 So is it going to be a Wheelvarna or a Husqhorse Norm ?? 2 meadowfield and Alan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #23 Posted May 28, 2016 A bit more progress today. First I tackled the front axle as I wanted the Huskvarna steering set up. This turned out to be really simple. The Huskvarna axle spindles are a straight swop. Only difference is the tie bar. I don't know if it should be bent , but if it was straight the wheels would toe out something cronic. Anyway that was swapped round as in photo's. Curve to the rear. Now the fun starts. The gearbox. Photo shows where it will be, keeping the same wheelbase. I'm going to have to make a subframe to bolt/weld on to the rear of the chassis. Not worked out how yet. Two or three options. Sat the engine on just to get an idea of how it would look. You'll notice it's vertical shaft. Hence the steering arrangement change. 5 Ian, pmackellow, the showman and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #24 Posted May 28, 2016 Tie bar should be strait norm 1 Stormin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #25 Posted May 28, 2016 Cheers, Nigel. I thought it should be. I'll straighten it out. Plenty of adjustment on the track rods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites