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Morning Doug, I get what your saying about moving the centers but as Mark said Wh wheels are spot welded, and rather big spot welds at that.. I did spend a long time measuring the wheels you very kindly sent me, but I can't find a way of using the centers from them.. More to come later chaps but for now these two pics should give you all the kinda vision I have for this machine.. Somewhere between the two but without a roof and flames that are not mostly yellow

Here are one or two more photos of my grubber hope you like

That's a heck of a dip stick on the side.

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are mag yes you could be right there ben

Bought gutbrod as a non runner now running and painted just got couple of niggles to sort out carb and decals. also got a Allen to per Rte and a Mountfield 11 Couldn't rotate picture sorry Allen roper rt16

How are the centres attached to the rims Ian ? Before anyone says, I know they are welded, but, a set of wheels I bought from the sale had the centres more in the middle than to one side of the rim. However, the 'spokes' were held with a couple of weld runs instead of spot welds. I just ground the welds away and the centres were then re-welded further in I think they may have been J D wheels, the PCD was the same as WH. Is it possible to transfer the centres from the wheels I sent you to the WH rims? The WH centres in the narrow rims would then become desirable ( £££) items for someone with an older WH.who wants to fit say 6x12 ag's

Hi here are some more photos of my grubber now ready for trial this weekend at our fun day