the showman 4,074 #1 Posted August 16, 2016 Took Norm to Johns today to meet John and Alan only problem was he kept disappearing . 6 nigel, Alan, slf-uk and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #2 Posted August 16, 2016 It ain't red Normam! 1 slf-uk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #3 Posted August 16, 2016 Nice to meet Norm today. He was just as Chris described, another nutter. Chris managed to get a few photo's when Norm returned to refuel. Most of the time it was a case of heard but not seen as he was plowing through the undergrowth. More of John's bits and pieces will soon be heading north. Thanks Norm. 2 Triumph66 and HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #4 Posted August 16, 2016 Bloody lap top. Can someone more computer savvy get rid of the lot, please? 3 HeadExam, Triumph66 and Alan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #5 Posted August 16, 2016 So you've bought the Roper then Norm ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #6 Posted August 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stormin said: Bloody lap top. Can someone more computer savvy get rid of the lot, please? Sorted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #7 Posted August 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Alan said: Nice to meet Norm today. He was just as Chris described, another nutter. That not what Chris said to me. I can't repeat here. 2 Alan and HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #8 Posted August 16, 2016 Good job the tea was flowing 2 Stormin and HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #9 Posted August 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, pmackellow said: So you've bought the Roper then Norm ?? Not yet. Negotiations will be in progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #10 Posted August 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, Triumph66 said: That not what Chris said to me. I can't repeat here. Neither can I. I had to tone it down a bit. Nutter was a mild substitute. 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #12 Posted August 16, 2016 It was a good day at Johns. Good to meet Alan, a fellow Northerner from Gods end of the country, and John at last. Managed to find one or two bits the vultures had missed. If I'd had more time and Chris's van had been empty, I think there would have been more than one or two. 3 Triumph66, HeadExam and Alan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #13 Posted August 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Stormin said: Not yet. Negotiations will be in progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #14 Posted August 16, 2016 46 minutes ago, pmackellow said: Sorted Thanks Paul. 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 642 #15 Posted August 16, 2016 Johns place is looking very tidy. The scaffoldings gone from the house! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #16 Posted August 16, 2016 1 hour ago, the showman said: Good job the tea was flowing Chris without tea would be like a car without petrol. Both would stop working. The tea was also joined by coffee today. The kettle never had time to cool off. 2 Stormin and the showman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #17 Posted August 16, 2016 The service was good as well. 1 Alan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #18 Posted August 16, 2016 Just now, Stormin said: The service was good as well. We aim to please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #19 Posted August 17, 2016 It look like a good time all around. Is that a Briggs twin in the Roper? I thought they were Onan's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #20 Posted August 17, 2016 8 hours ago, HeadExam said: It look like a good time all around. Is that a Briggs twin in the Roper? I thought they were Onan's As far as I know most did have Onan's. I think, but not 100% sure, that the Brigg twins were only fitted for one year. 1978. Also think that 1978 was the only year for the black and silver color ( American spelling ) scheme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #21 Posted August 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, Alan said: As far as I know most did have Onan's. I think, but not 100% sure, that the Brigg twins were only fitted for one year. 1978. Also think that 1978 was the only year for the black and silver color ( American spelling ) scheme. do you have a 917.XXXXXX number you could give me? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #22 Posted August 17, 2016 Look on Alan's Sears/Roper rebuild topic, Alain. Details there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #23 Posted August 17, 2016 48 minutes ago, HeadExam said: do you have a 917.XXXXXX number you could give me? Thanks Alain. The Roper ID plate gives the model number as T5828DR Serial 3138B01202 I have not been able to trace these on the web but Sears GT16 917 - 257050 is identical as far as I can see. Info found via Searstractormanuals.com The engine model number is 401417 0127 Type 01 Code 780915 12 which dates the engine to 1978. Searches on various American forums also indicated that the black and silver color, combined with the twin Briggs, are a 1978 combination. Someone may know otherwise though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #24 Posted August 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Alan said: Alain. The Roper ID plate gives the model number as T5828DR Serial 3138B01202 I have not been able to trace these on the web but Sears GT16 917 - 257050 is identical as far as I can see. Info found via Searstractormanuals.com The engine model number is 401417 0127 Type 01 Code 780915 12 which dates the engine to 1978. Searches on various American forums also indicated that the black and silver color, combined with the twin Briggs, are a 1978 combination. Someone may know otherwise though. Here is the manual for the 1974 Roper RT16T which had the Briggs twin in case you don't have it. See if this isn't the same, or different from yours. I haven't found the 1978 manual yet. My Roper/Sears manuals are a mess. BTW, I believe the Roper RT16T was made with the Briggs twin from 1974-1977 and the Roper GT16 with the Briggs was made in 1978 only. Roper_ RT-16T_T63241R1.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #25 Posted August 18, 2016 The RT-16T has a lot of differences to the GT16 Alain. Although the chassis and many of the smaller parts look the same, the fenders, dash tower, gas tank and grill top half etc are different. The RT-16T grill slopes back at the top when viewed from the side and the headlamps are set lower. This can just be seen via the parts manual link and also on photos of the RT-16T found on Google images. I expect there was a lot of variations over the years, as with most things, so some RT-16T's could have had similar parts to the GT16 fitted. The decals also appear to vary a lot even in any given year. 2 HeadExam and Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites