harryt 281 #1 Posted February 26, 2017 So I picked this up at Malvern yesterday. I bought it as I have never seen another one, it is German and powered by a JLO Diesel engine which is 2 stroke. This is an interesting set up and looks to be original apart from the alternator. From what I understand it is a vineyard tractor and this would explain the very tight turning circle. Has hydraulics and also an extra valve at the back which I have never seen on another tractor to perhaps power something like a log splitter? I have not been able to get it started yet, but looks promising as there is some smoke coming out of the exhaust, I think I need to investigate the glow plug. Any information would be appreciated on the tractor or the engine as I can find very limited information and mainly in German. Harry 3 4x4forks, Triumph66 and Stormin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #2 Posted February 26, 2017 From the photo's I assume it's water cooled. And the two tops on what looks like the fuel tank. One diesel? One hydraulic oil? 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mowerdar 98 #3 Posted February 26, 2017 The extra valve is probably for a tipping trailer looks similar to the one on my brother in laws super dextar 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryt 281 #4 Posted February 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, mowerdar said: The extra valve is probably for a tipping trailer looks similar to the one on my brother in laws super dextar Yes you probably right, it would be nice to find one for it 13 minutes ago, Stormin said: From the photo's I assume it's water cooled. And the two tops on what looks like the fuel tank. One diesel? One hydraulic oil? There are three tanks, one for hydraulic oil, one for diesel and one for the two stroke oil I think. Does anyone know what oil to use for the two stroke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #5 Posted February 26, 2017 I could answer that if it was petrol. But a diesel 2 stroke may use a different oil. Have you Googled JLO diesel engine? 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #6 Posted February 26, 2017 Ask Nigel, his Holder is a 2 stroke diesel 2 nigel and harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #7 Posted February 26, 2017 Ive seen a tractor very similar in a friends barn but has a petrol engine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #8 Posted February 26, 2017 Forgot about the Holder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryt 281 #9 Posted February 26, 2017 I will look into it, I need to find the engine model to refine my internet search. Thanks guys and hopefully next weekend I can get it going 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #10 Posted February 26, 2017 Good to see something different Harry. I am sure Chris will be able to cast his mechanical eye over it! 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 548 #11 Posted February 26, 2017 HAKO! i'd love me one of those one day but them cost quite a lot over here i dont think it needs any aditional two stroke oil since its a diesel, and being JLO id guess its aircooled. as for starting it try wetting a rag with petrol and holding it over the airfilter, should start on that the third tank might be engine oil, could be dry sump 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryt 281 #12 Posted February 27, 2017 Thanks Koen, I will try that at the weekend. It is definitely air cooled but just not sure about the 2 stroke part of the engine. I will try and find a manual on the engine itself as cannot find much on the tractor itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 548 #13 Posted February 27, 2017 had a look and seems that the cap closets to the seat is diesel, the one in front engine oil/two stroke oil and the small one on the front is hydraulics 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
expeatfarmer 591 #14 Posted February 27, 2017 The two stroke Diesel refers to the induction process, the oil is a dry sump system not connected to the fuel. Diesel acts as a lubricant on it's own as per Sachs and Drayton/Stihl two stroke diesels. If it is a 600cc, it should have a power equivalent to a 1200cc 4 stroke as the engine will fire once every revolution instead of every second. 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryt 281 #15 Posted February 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, C-101plowerpower said: had a look and seems that the cap closets to the seat is diesel, the one in front engine oil/two stroke oil and the small one on the front is hydraulics Yes that is correct, so for the one in front i can just use a standard engine oil? 5 minutes ago, expeatfarmer said: The two stroke Diesel refers to the induction process, the oil is a dry sump system not connected to the fuel. Diesel acts as a lubricant on it's own as per Sachs and Drayton/Stihl two stroke diesels. If it is a 600cc, it should have a power equivalent to a 1200cc 4 stroke as the engine will fire once every revolution instead of every second. Thanks or that, should be a powerful beast when it fires up then, looking at the tractor as a whole, the engine looks oversized for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #16 Posted February 27, 2017 Yes Harry I agree with koen just normal engine oil 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryt 281 #17 Posted March 12, 2017 Managed to get the tractor running last weekend. Fun was short lived as the previous owner had made up some dodgy battery terminal clamps which short circuited on the dash, nearly setting tractor on flames😬. Went to turn the key again and nothing, so I lost my patience with it and left it for another day. That day was today and with a bit of fault finding I managed to locate the problem, the solenoid which must of burnt out. With a bit of wiring I was able to bridge the solenoid and start it up. I am very pleased with the tractor, extremely powerful and fast, must go about 20mph😳. My plan now is to sort the hydraulics on it and try and source a solenoid. If anyone has one that would be a great help ( Bosch SHSM 24L6Z 12V). Harry 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #18 Posted March 12, 2017 Your find most solenoids will fit Harry, you only need a battery power in and out and a live to activate it 1 harryt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 642 #19 Posted March 12, 2017 Next time you pick up a scrap westwood Harry just pinch the one out of that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #20 Posted January 10, 2022 Well I thought I would revive this topic, I ended up buying this from Harry ( I was robbed ) after it sat for 4 years in a container, it took me 3 days to get it running after changing all fuel pipes and wiring flushing tanks etc, when it did finally go it started revving and kept revving faster and faster until I could not stop it, my mate hid behind a digger as I jammed a lever on the governer to try and stop it which it didn’t ,then real disaster happend the governer snapped off, I ended up pulling the fuel line off and it stopped, now I have a major problem of getting the governer out of the engine, 🙄 1 Maxwell-8 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #21 Posted April 3, 2023 Well I got ian to lathe me up another governer rod, and it was a bastard to fit but we got there in the end, we got it running properly and I rode it around at rural pastimes ,it ran ok, I have now sold it on and it’s gone west to wales, I know the new owner has spent many hours working on it since and hopefully he will be posting here at some point 1 Stormin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #22 Posted April 4, 2023 Looks nice and tidy now, Nigel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
