HeadExam 1,783 #1 Posted January 5, 2019 This is a XL-102 Automatic, its a 1970 saw weighing 11 pounds and has 57cc with auto oiler and manual over ride. These were only made in 1970 and 1971 I have one from both years. I couldn't get NOS decals so I had to do the best I could. Still need to install the carb and find a appropriate spot on the shelf. Last picture is what the saw looked like before 8 Triumph66, C-101plowerpower, pmackellow and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #2 Posted January 5, 2019 Nice job you've made of it, Alain. I like the metallic blue. 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #3 Posted January 5, 2019 Nice job, I like that 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #4 Posted January 5, 2019 16 hours ago, Stormin said: Nice job you've made of it, Alain. I like the metallic blue. The color itself is really close to the original, but I made it using two Pontiac blue metallic colors and should only have used one metallic and one solid color, just a bit too much metallic compared to the original. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNew 404 #5 Posted January 7, 2019 very nice! 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #6 Posted January 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, CNew said: very nice! ah, another member from the states Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slf-uk 914 #7 Posted January 12, 2019 It looks fantastic, you have done a great job Iain 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #8 Posted January 20, 2019 WOW! That thing came out really nice. If the original color is the same as the XL-12 blue, there's a paint Honda Highland Blue which is just about a perfect color match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #9 Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Wallfish said: WOW! That thing came out really nice. If the original color is the same as the XL-12 blue, there's a paint Honda Highland Blue which is just about a perfect color match Thank you! There were at least 3 and probably 4 colors on the blue saws. Early XL--12s and Super XLs, then later XL-12s. Super XLs, XL-700, XL-901, 150s, XL-101 and XL-102s were slightly darker. Then later on there was a Super XL Special Edition and Old Blue that were different from one another as well. There are two Pontiac, blues when mixed match the late 60s blue saws, but you need to use one in none metallic finish to match it perfect. I have worked with colors for over 30 years. 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riber3 4 #10 Posted February 7, 2019 Wow that is stunning!! in fact I think I may have a similar one will check tomorrow in the meantime can anyone point in the direction of how to renovate a chainsaw as I have a couple that need sorting and I need to read up on how best to do this before I start 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #11 Posted February 9, 2019 I doubt if there is any book or literature on restoring saws. I collected over 40 old Homelite chainsaws and over 100 Homelite chainsaw manuals, then collected new spare parts for all of them. Cleaning and paint prep on magnesium is different than other metals, but painting a 2 stroke machine that needs to be gas and oil resistant requires a epoxy clear top coat. 1 riber3 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riber3 4 #12 Posted February 9, 2019 Many thanks for the info and here is a photo of my sad little collection that I hope to get on with later in the year 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #13 Posted February 9, 2019 That is a Homelite C-51, made between 1964-1967. Here is some information http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/b7dfa302dafd0c9188256b7c001833a1?OpenDocument Parts are still easily attainable. The C stood for convertible because these saws often were used as power plants for post hole augers, ice augers, power generators and water pumps, they also had a clutch attachment to change from a direct drive chain to a gear reduction chain. These C series saw were way overbuilt structural and while heavy for the hp, were reliable over many more years than most saws. The C-51 was 77 cc's, the larger C-71 was 80.5 cc's and the C-91 was 85.5 cc's. Sand blasting with walnut hulls will prep the saw for paint and I recommend a cleaning in a alkaline based cleaner such as TSP or equivalent. 1 riber3 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riber3 4 #14 Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, HeadExam said: That is a Homelite C-51, made between 1964-1967. Here is some information http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/b7dfa302dafd0c9188256b7c001833a1?OpenDocument Parts are still easily attainable. The C stood for convertible because these saws often were used as power plants for post hole augers, ice augers, power generators and water pumps, they also had a clutch attachment to change from a direct drive chain to a gear reduction chain. These C series saw were way overbuilt structural and while heavy for the hp, were reliable over many more years than most saws. The C-51 was 77 cc's, the larger C-71 was 80.5 cc's and the C-91 was 85.5 cc's. Sand blasting with walnut hulls will prep the saw for paint and I recommend a cleaning in a alkaline based cleaner such as TSP or equivalent. Many thanks for the information it is heavy LOL but I was given both the blue ones and the red one a few years back. I did get one running but due a major house renovation they have sat on the back burner for a while but th information you have given me is a big help and inspiration as well as the photos on here of course. Is TSP a thinners solvent ? 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #15 Posted February 9, 2019 5 hours ago, riber3 said: Many thanks for the information it is heavy LOL but I was given both the blue ones and the red one a few years back. I did get one running but due a major house renovation they have sat on the back burner for a while but th information you have given me is a big help and inspiration as well as the photos on here of course. Is TSP a thinners solvent ? TSP is tri sodium phosphate a water based alkaline cleaner (strong soap, no bubbles), whats the red saw, cant see it 1 riber3 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riber3 4 #16 Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, HeadExam said: TSP is tri sodium phosphate a water based alkaline cleaner (strong soap, no bubbles), whats the red saw, cant see it Thanks for the update and because you have been so good to me I unpacked my shelves and took some more photos. Hope you like them!! Edited February 10, 2019 by riber3 add photos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #17 Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, riber3 said: Thanks for the update and because you have been so good to me I unpacked my shelves and took some more photos. Hope you like them!! The Jonsered appears to be 49SP http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/084bb064dcc6912b88256b69007e2ffa?OpenDocument The Danarm is a very nice old saw as well, http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/9185446ae58f5c7c88256b4e0066f91a?OpenDocument . The Pro Mac 60 is another nice old saw, http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/ab2c4eb6cab868aa88256c2e0075f710?OpenDocument . The Mac338 is a much newer saw that only appears old. about circa 2000 1 riber3 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riber3 4 #18 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 2:44 PM, HeadExam said: The Jonsered appears to be 49SP http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/084bb064dcc6912b88256b69007e2ffa?OpenDocument The Danarm is a very nice old saw as well, http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/9185446ae58f5c7c88256b4e0066f91a?OpenDocument . The Pro Mac 60 is another nice old saw, http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/ab2c4eb6cab868aa88256c2e0075f710?OpenDocument . The Mac338 is a much newer saw that only appears old. about circa 2000 Many thanks for the additional info I am sure I will make good use of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #19 Posted February 17, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 5:51 AM, HeadExam said: This is a XL-102 Automatic, its a 1970 saw weighing 11 pounds and has 57cc with auto oiler and manual over ride. These were only made in 1970 and 1971 I have one from both years. Sorry Alain, I missed this one. Good looking machine after what you have done to it. The decal orientation does not affect it's appearance. Will it see/make some sawdust?. 1 HeadExam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadExam 1,783 #20 Posted February 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Anglo Traction said: Sorry Alain, I missed this one. Good looking machine after what you have done to it. The decal orientation does not affect it's appearance. Will it see/make some sawdust?. Thanks Richard, the decal maker sent me another decal, so alls well. I'm working on another XL-100 series saw of similar in design, this one a 1975 XL-123, complete rebuild, piston, rod, rings, bearings, seals, fuel lines, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites