bowtiebutler956 166 #1 Posted January 25, 2014 Hello all. This is a great place you folks have here! Richard suggested I put up a few pics of some of my old engines, and I love talking old Briggs engines, so here we go. Thanks Matt Pics 1-4 are of a 1941 Briggs Model U. They are unique for their vacuum assisted fuel system, which was Briggs fix for the lean condition that these old engines were plagued with when they started getting low on fuel. If you take the gas cap off when the engine is running, it dies. Pics 5-8 are of a 1943 Briggs Model N Lever Start, that was a Military issue engine. While lever starts were more common on some of the old Briggs WI, and other models, they aren't seen very often on the Model N. Pics 9-12 are of a 1944 Briggs Model N. This was the first old Briggs engine that I restored, and the one that really got me hooked on this hobby, and the Model N line of engine in particular. Pics 13-16 are a 45 Model N kick start, military engine. It has a kick starter, and is equipped with radio suppression (shielded spark plug, and wire). Its fuel shut off is a long rod that goes all the way thru the gas tank. 1 S1g reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 166 #2 Posted January 25, 2014 And we continue. Pics 1-3 are of a 46 Briggs NPR6. This engines originally came on a Bolen Power Ho walk behind garden tractor. It has a 6:1 gear reduction. Pics 4-7 are of a 47 Briggs NS Kick Start engine. These engines use a suction feed carburetor, which is what the "S" stands for. This particular engine was used on wash machines. This one is not restored, as it was just a nice original, good running engine. I don't have the gas tank, or exhaust on it in these pics, but it does have them now. Pics 8-11 are of a 48 Model N. 1948 was the only year Briggs ever used aluminum sheet metal on the model N. (shroud, cylinder shield, and rope cup). Briggs originally painted them all black, but I chose to just clear the aluminum parts, as this is what makes them different. Pics 12-15 are of a 48 Model NS. This one has the suction feed carburetor. 1 S1g reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 166 #3 Posted January 25, 2014 And we continue again. Pics 1-4 are of a 48 model N, with a mechanical governor, which is unusual. Most all Model N engines were equipped with an air vain governor. This engine was originally on a David Bradley walk behind garden tractor, and is also equipped with the aluminum sheet metal. Pics 5-7 are a Briggs NP. The NP is different from a regular Model N, because it has a bearing, rather than a bushing on the PTO side of the crankshaft, and it also has mounting holes to bolt equipment directly to the engine. Pics 8-11 are a 52 NPR6. It has the 6:1 gear reduction, and is a very late production model N. The model N line of engine ended in early 53, and they only made just a very few in 53. Pics 12-14 are of a 52 Briggs Model 8 that I restored, and put in my son Nathans mini bike. He loves it! I guess I'm going to have to become a supporter, as I managed to max out my allowed MB's of pictures in one thread! Wow. 2 S1g and neil reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 524 #4 Posted January 25, 2014 OMG , what a collection. they are just amazing works of art. Thank you sooooooooo much for showing those to us , They are just beautiful Where do you keep them all? 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #5 Posted January 25, 2014 That's a huge collection, what a great thread! Thanks for sharing 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheeledhorseman 19 #6 Posted January 25, 2014 What a wonderful collection - just amazing really. Thanks for sharing both the pics and details. Andy 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #7 Posted January 25, 2014 That Gentleman, is a pictorial record of B&S Engines unlikely to be found anywhere else. They are truly superb 'Works of Art' in their own right. I know who to ask for guidance when I'm lucky enough to stumble over an old 'Briggs'. Thanks Matt, I'm sure people will endorse the fact they just had to be on here. 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #8 Posted January 25, 2014 I agree, some collection. Superb! 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amcrules00 24 #9 Posted January 25, 2014 All gorgeous restorations...like artwork all. 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 166 #10 Posted January 25, 2014 OMG , what a collection. they are just amazing works of art. Thank you sooooooooo much for showing those to us , They are just beautiful Where do you keep them all? Thanks Neil, and actually all the engines that are picture here are living on display shelves inside my house. I have about 50 old engines, most of which live at my shop, but these are the privileged few that live in a climate controlled environment. Believe it or not, it doesn't bother my wife at all. She likes them! That's a huge collection, what a great thread! Thanks for sharing Thanks, I appreciate it. I do have a few old engines, and it seems like every time I turn my back, they multiply like rabbits! What a wonderful collection - just amazing really. Thanks for sharing both the pics and details. Andy Thanks for the kind words Andy. That Gentleman, is a pictorial record of B&S Engines unlikely to be found anywhere else. They are truly superb 'Works of Art' in their own right. I know who to ask for guidance when I'm lucky enough to stumble over an old 'Briggs'. Thanks Matt, I'm sure people will endorse the fact they just had to be on here. Thanks Richard, I take that as a great compliment coming from someone who does the caliber of work that you do. I've spent alot of time drooling over your C-120! I agree, some collection. Superb! Thanks You. All gorgeous restorations...like artwork all. Thanks for the encouraging post. You guys sure know how to make a guy feel at home. Matt 1 wheeledhorseman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 71 #11 Posted January 25, 2014 nice to see one of them actually powering something. Way cool! 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve d 43 #12 Posted January 25, 2014 Fab collection there and great to see the old stuff .keep em coming . Oh and super restorations. Steve 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #13 Posted January 25, 2014 Nice collection of engines, well restored 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardman 30 #14 Posted February 8, 2014 Beautiful finish ..any tips on painting/paint type used? ...I like the Briggs engines... Never seen anything like these old beauties before.... Thanks for sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 166 #15 Posted February 8, 2014 Beautiful finish ..any tips on painting/paint type used? ...I like the Briggs engines... Never seen anything like these old beauties before.... Thanks for sharing. Thank you sir. The paint is nothing special. Its just an industrial enamel, that cost about $20 a gallon in my area, however the hardener for the paint is almost $20 for a pint. The paint is mixed 2:1+10%. 2 parts paint, 1 part reducer, 10% hardener. I spray it with basic HVLP spray gun, running at about 45psi. The hardener is very important if you want a high gloss, durable finish. Thanks Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wallfish 698 #16 Posted February 9, 2014 VERY NICE My wife can't stand the fact I collect engines. Maybe it's because I always stink of oil and gas. That stenchy 40+ year old gas is the worst. One drop seems to linger for days. The only old Briggs I own is a 1945 ZZ. 6 hp (I believe) which is about the size of a more modern Kohler K241 10 horse. It's connected to an old WW II generator. 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1g 579 #17 Posted February 9, 2014 I allways like to see these old Briggs engines. 70's ones were what I learnt how to repair engines on, when I was a kid. 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangman 25 #18 Posted February 10, 2014 hmm i've got a couple of 70's one that need a bit of attention s1g lol, back to topic those engines are great 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #19 Posted February 14, 2014 I'm guessing you have a "thing" for Briggs engines then Matt A fantastic collection, they should be be displayed in the house... Keep em nice and warm 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 166 #20 Posted February 15, 2014 VERY NICE My wife can't stand the fact I collect engines. Maybe it's because I always stink of oil and gas. That stenchy 40+ year old gas is the worst. One drop seems to linger for days. The only old Briggs I own is a 1945 ZZ. 6 hp (I believe) which is about the size of a more modern Kohler K241 10 horse. It's connected to an old WW II generator. Thanks Wallfish. My wife is quite supportive of my engines, but only the nice, clean, and pretty engines are allowed to live in the house! The dirty, greasy, smelly ones have to live in my shop! The ZZ is a real beast of an old Briggs, and they weigh about 140 lbs. !! A little hard on the back. I allways like to see these old Briggs engines. 70's ones were what I learnt how to repair engines on, when I was a kid. I also worked on the 70's model engines in my dad's mower shop as a kid in the early 80's. Now I like working on engines that were born before my dad! Thanks hmm i've got a couple of 70's one that need a bit of attention s1g lol, back to topic those engines are great Thanks. I'm guessing you have a "thing" for Briggs engines then Matt A fantastic collection, they should be be displayed in the house... Keep em nice and warm A "thing" for Briggs engines, Ian? Whatever gave you that idea? I can have a rotten day at work, and be in a foul mood, but sit down at my work bench rebuilding an old Briggs, and feel like a new man, in no time at all. Matt 1 neil reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 524 #21 Posted February 15, 2014 Matt, I keep comming back to this thread to have a look at these wonderful Briggs engines Where do you get repro repro decals from , are they the waterslide type ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 166 #22 Posted February 15, 2014 Matt, I keep comming back to this thread to have a look at these wonderful Briggs engines Where do you get repro repro decals from , are they the waterslide type ? Thanks Neil. No they're not the fatory water slide type. They are a very, very thin vinyl, and here is a link to the place I get them from. http://stores.ebay.com/ENGINE-DECALS?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 Jim is a member of an old engine forum I'm part of, and he has gone to great lengths to make these decals as precise as possible. Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,877 #23 Posted February 15, 2014 what a surperb collection matt i luv em 1 bowtiebutler956 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 166 #24 Posted February 15, 2014 what a surperb collection matt i luv em Thanks Nigel. Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites