Ian 2,417 #51 Posted August 19, 2014 No photo's for this small update, it was a frustrating day yesterday!! After all the chopping about of the outrigger again, the chain that had been a pain was sorted and fitted well.. Shame the last chain to go on is giving the same problems!! Yes, that's right... It's too long or too short!! I'm going to try swapping the chains about today as I think one is slightly shorter than the other and see if that helps.. I'm also wondering how much the chains have stretched during their short but very hard life on the 6x6, so some new chain has been ordered it should be here Wednesday.. Oh.. I also had to drop the 6x6 down on her wheels yesterday so I could roll her back a bit and get some working space at the front.. The weight balance is interesting.. I'd say that 52% of it is in front of the middle axles, with the 3 point put back on it might even have 50-50 balance!! Until I sit my fat 'orse on the seat of course, then the front goes up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #52 Posted August 19, 2014 I'm thinking for all the pain, you could have just inflated the middle wheels to 30 psi and dropped the front and rears to 10 psi.... 1 nigel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #53 Posted August 19, 2014 Well, yet another day in the shack trying to get the 6x6 driving again, and what do I have to show for it!!! Only a few photo's that were grabbed from some video footage Going in!!! In! Coming back out after remembering 1 second too late that there was a tree on it's side in the nettles! The Raider looks like it's angry with me! At least it wasn't only me that crashed the poor Raider And to finish off..... Going up 3 ranger, rotoscytheben and Vinnetrow reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #54 Posted August 19, 2014 Awesomeness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diggerjames 543 #56 Posted August 19, 2014 Great ian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #57 Posted August 20, 2014 Thanks Guy's What I didn't mention last night is the er... Slight change in how the 6x6 steers as you will see 2 rotoscytheben and nigel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #58 Posted August 20, 2014 You big kid. Well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #59 Posted August 20, 2014 Fab, that's some big smiles and yeehaws! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,877 #60 Posted August 20, 2014 well done ian i know what a headache this has caused you, all you need now is some WHEELY-BARS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotoscytheben 94 #61 Posted August 21, 2014 well done just try not to break it before tractorfest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #62 Posted August 21, 2014 Er... Too late Ben, it broke twice today!! Backing it out the shack to load it onto the trailer and a sprocket sheered off an axle again!! So, I welded it up again, drove it up to the yard at the top and drove it onto the trailer with no problems.. 20 min's driving later and Nigel and I arrived at the show site... I unloaded the 6x6 and guess what.. Yes my welds sheered again :banghead: So back on the trailer the 6x6 went and off to Nigel's workshop we trundled where Nigel's son Carl who knows how to weld and has the bit's of paper to prove it welded to sprocket back on again.. And a rather good job Carl made of it too Back at the show site once again and the 6x6 was unloaded and given a test thrashing by Nigel...... Nothing broke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #63 Posted August 21, 2014 Fingers crossed Ian 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #64 Posted August 21, 2014 Thanks Mark, chatting with Nigel about the problem we thin it's all down to my arc welded not being able to produce enough heat to really get a hold on the axle! At some point very soon I'm going to take my Mig welder to Nigel's and try it out with gas and proper welding wire.. If it does what we hope it will then the time to ditch the arc welder will come Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #65 Posted August 21, 2014 Are you welding on full tilt with a decent rod? Decent rods make all the difference, the cheap mild steel 6010 type ones I use are not very good. Also I think you will never get a brilliant weld onto the cast bushes. The weld cracks as it cools, I've had the same issue a few times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ranger 373 #66 Posted August 21, 2014 are you using 6010 rods on AC or DC Mark? they are a DC rod.6011's are deep penetration rods for AC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #67 Posted August 21, 2014 I'm on ac, but I made the number up because I couldn't be bothered checking the box I think they are actually 6013.... You are right 6010 are dc only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ranger 373 #68 Posted August 21, 2014 The cheapo welding rods never seem to work very well unless you have a decent set with highish OCV or a DC unit (if you can avoid 'arc blow') I've just ordered a 10lb box or 6011 rods from the USA at a price a 10th of the cost from the UK or Germany, - the same brand name too. On the Fenner power transmissions website you can download the shaft fittings pdf which lists taperloc,Trantorque gtr & Fenlock cone clamping elements, well worth a look as some are keyless and can be used where existing keyways are damaged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #69 Posted August 22, 2014 Yep, I'm welding on full tilt.. 6013 cheap welding rods. The bushes are steel one's Mark. I turned them up on the lathe as I didn't like the chances of welds holding on to the cast bushes! I should of just tried it, It may of worked better I will also add that my welding isn't at it's est when I'm having to lay on the ground to do it.. If I could put the axle and sprocket on the bench to weld it up all would be fine.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,877 #70 Posted August 22, 2014 the weld wont break now its done propper but the axle or chain might 3 diggerjames, Ian and ranger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #71 Posted August 23, 2014 I was thinking that taking some spare chain was a little OTT.. Not so sure now I think I'm going to have to book Karl in for some welding lessons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #72 Posted August 27, 2014 Well, I didn't need a spare chain for the show but as some of you will know I did manage to break a weld again... Not the same one as normal but a 3 inch long circular weld that held the sprocket onto the steel bush!! Boy is this machine pushing out some power!! So once again Karl the master welder did his "melting metal in a strong and controlled way" trick yesterday and 6 wheel drive was restored Only one thing left to do.. Test the 6x6 out by pulling it's heaviest load to date.. Yep the big trailer I will get video footage when the trailer goes back out at the end of the week, the Kohler twin sounded sooo good under load roaring away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slf-uk 914 #73 Posted August 27, 2014 Looking good Ian. I use my HT23 all the time for moving trailers. My Ifor would look good on your 6x6, it has the right number of wheels. Iain 4 diggerjames, meadowfield, nigel and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 642 #74 Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) Love that pic Iain one of my trailers is the same as yours but I have an electric winch for recovering dead stuff Ignor that Discovery. Thats long gone thank god & now have the green defender Edited August 27, 2014 by Chris 2 nigel and Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
