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Looking good Norm, bet it sounds good!
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Thanks guys. I am struggling in regards the ignition plug and ammeter but I'm hoping I can overcome these. Push comes to shove I will order a brand new toro ammeter and just crimp connectors for the ignition switch. I am hoping to get another order from a guy in America in the coming months with some wheel horse parts so I may get him to send over some ignition plugs and the terminals that fit inside them. I can then cut the connectors off and fit an ignition switch..
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Thanks Mark
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The welder is a Clarke 160TM, the bottom of the industrial/automotive range. I bought it on a VAT free night from Machine Mart!
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I did get it from the Cattle Market, I stuck the L plates on this afternoon and me and dad took a drive there I actually enjoy welding now I'm practising more and it's 100x better with a nice welder, so line as many jobs as you want up!!
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the replies, I thought I had better follow this thread up. I have finally got a new welding set-up, I have only briefly tried it but I am very happy with the performance of it so far. The gas is from a company called Hobbyweld, you pay a refundable deposit of £60 for the bottle meaning if I ever want to stop having it I just take it back and they give me my £60. Each refill is approximately £36.
Here is a quick weld I did with it, this is with very brief set-up. Once I have fine-tuned it hopefully the weld will improve more.
Tom
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Bit of an update, I have removed the deck, I seem to have a few different sizes now!
I have also taken the fuel tank and support out, it makes it a lot easier to get to the electrics.
The back of the ammeter is smashed so that needs replacing. I am also replacing the ignition switch and plug from another mower I have here. The ignition switch and plug is not in great condition. I will then replacing all the wiring, the front headlights work however the rear light needs a new bulb. The clutch/brake switch work so I will include this in the circuit. I'm really looking forward to getting this running!
Tom
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Thanks for the PM Iain with the link. That'd be great, thank you. It will be interesting to see how you get on with them, they are just what I was looking for.
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I can only echo what Iain said. I use eBay a lot to buy and to sell and have had quite a few people not bother contacting me or make stupid excuses. On the other hand, I have met some good people and also found contacts who have helped me out again after deals or vice versa. There are pros and cons but it has definitely gone down hill with regards to some of the users and also the fees you have to pay.
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Hi Iain,
You are certainly right about the deck having more holes next to the chute than normal. You may very well be right, I'll have to get some more pictures of it.
Where did you get them if you don't mind me asking, I am trying to find similar connectors as well.
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I know, I kept telling myself no more! I have to admit I have been wanting an auto horse for a while so I think this is it for a while now
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Looks great so far Norm, can't wait to see it finished!
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Hi Andy,
Good to hear from you. The auto is definitely nice, I have only had a little drive but it's very smooth.
I will definitely put some fuses in after what happened to you. When you rewired yours did you use new or original plugs?
It's interesting about the hitch, you may very well be right. I know Neil just mentioned about it being an import or Belgium thing and this C120 is a Belgium model. If it was something that you need to fit your lawn vacuum let me know as it's of no use to me! It certainly does look factory.
I wondered what the little decals were, I've never seen them before. It's also got a decal which says "I've got a horse, wheel horse of course" which I think is factory. I am ordering some decals from Mark so may get some more of them. It is missing one so I am replacing the bonnet decals but I'm not going to restore it. I may spray the wheels though.
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Hi,
I had read they were packard style but I wasn't sure what type. I have tried searching but I can only find them in the US like you mentioned. I will try and save as many as I can but if it does need new ones I may use some more modern connectors for now, maybe eventually I could make it totally original but it is a working tractor. I would appreciate if you could get the part number. It's definitely a nice machine, I'm certainly pleased
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It could be, never heard or seen one before though. The only thing me and Iain could think it would be was a strengthener for the hitch. Apparently the previous owner used it a lot with a trailer, which would also make sense because of the tyre pressures for the trailer on the side of the fender, which makes me think when there is a lot of nose weight on the trailer the bottom plate on the hitch is pushing against the transmission and this piece of angled metal helps stop that. I'm not sure what else it could be..
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Hi Neil,Thank you, I also spotted the snow plough bracket, I already have one so if someone wants one let me know That's fine, just let me know once you've sent it, hope the family problems are sorting themselves out.
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You can see it in the last picture, it's the little brackets attached to the axle housing, this is a picture of one removed from the machine:
They are used with snow ploughs and also rotovators I think.
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Thanks Paul!
It certainly was, always nice to have a catchup. Thanks again. I am really happy just to hear it running and have a little drive, at least now it gives me motivation to get the wiring sorted. You may be right about the hitch, definitely interesting.
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Thanks guys, I am very pleased. I spoke to the owner and the previous owner before him had a trailer for it and I wonder if like Mark said it was to strengthen it and to take the strain off of the transmission. On the right hand side of the fender there is also a decal which says the tractor tyre pressures and the trailer tyre pressure which I haven't seen before. I will have to get a picture of it.
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First of all I'd like to say a massive thank you to Iain (slf-uk) as I wouldn't have been able to get it home without him. He very kindly offered to collect this wheel horse for me as my father is currently ill and is unable to drive. I am overwhelmed by his generosity, so thank you Iain.
I have been wanting an auto wheel horse for a while and this one popped up advertised as not having a spark but it looked very tidy in the pictures. I liked the look of it a lot as it was original. I spoke to the owner and he was very honest and said that the wiring needed going through, I set my limit and luckily I won it. My plans are to try and source a hydraulic lift assembly for it and plumb it all in, it's definitely going to be a keeper. Anyway, I know you all want pictures so here it is:
It also came with some weird sort of frame under the hitch, anyone know what this is and whether it's original?
After I got it home I couldn't resist having a play and to see if I could get it running. I tested the coil, condenser and spark plug and they were all OK, cleaned and reset gap on the points but still no luck. I then ran a temporary wire giving the coil constant power from the battery and turned it over and we had a spark, put the plug in and off she went, a fair bit of smoke but it soon cleared, it hasn't been run in about 5 years so it was expected. The lack of spark was down to some awful wiring, here is an example of a join in the wire:
This was just covered in insulation tape, the wiring is totally gone and I have decided I am going to make a new wiring harness. The only problems I'm having is finding a plug for the ignition, also what connectors do these plugs use? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for looking,
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Very nice Iain, it will be interesting to see how it goes on the G14, hopefully it will cure or at least help it run better.
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Very nice Mark, even has the rear wheel weights! Look forward to seeing more of it,..
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It certainly is, I have a small list of things I'll hopefully be getting!
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Thanks for the reply guys! That SIP welder sounds powerful Mark! I have looked at Hobbyweld Rocboni but have emailed BOC as apparently they do a Volkszone deal which is a deal for hobbyist, none-business use welders like me, I am awaiting a quote from them. I have decided on a Clarke 160TM welder and will be purchasing on Wednesday as Machine Mart are having a VAT free evening
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A bit late I know but you definitely want ags and in my personal I'd go with wheel weights, if it's a tractor that ploughs all the time then you can ballast them, but if you are doing other jobs such as mowing the good thing about wheel weights are that they are removable because you don't always want the weight. Just an idea. If you are struggling to find wheel weights John Deere make ones that fit the same rim as a wheel horse they are green but I'm sure you could spray then if it bother you that much! Let us know what you go for.
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Awesome pictures, you can't beat a picture of these old machines doing what they do best!
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From the album: Toms pictures
NOS carb I found for a K181 for £15!
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From the album: Toms pictures
My old C125 that I massively regret selling!
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