DevonianRedneck 86 #1 Posted July 3, 2016 well after a 5 hr drive, and some interesting moments loading and unloading from the back of a disco! this is now parked in my garden. at a first glance its a little daunting, but the engine turns over and the carb and tank is spotless. full set of wheel weights and the gearbox appears to work but the clutch and brake pedals are seized solid, the brake pads have rusted to the drum and the clutch linkage and steering rods are gone, thottle and choke cables have had it, the slot hitch is seized solid and lift rod has rusted though as has the battery tray! however it was love at first sight and she will be saved ! if anyones got a kohler 141 workshop manual they could email me i would be eternally grateful, and if anyones got any of the bits missing that were listed above and are willing to part company please let me know cheers 8 the showman, nigel, Stormin and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #2 Posted July 3, 2016 A good restoration project, Henry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #3 Posted July 3, 2016 Love it! Now that's what I call a Wheel Horse; I just dig those earlier ones. Will you repaint it or leave it as is apart from going over the running gears and engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonianRedneck 86 #4 Posted July 3, 2016 first jobs gonna be getting it moving under its own power, then we shall see, the bonnets got a lovely patina, but the the wings and battery tray need some welding work done so it'll probally be a full respray job, plus i have never owned a nice shiny one so this might be my chance 3 nigel, Stormin and Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmatt01 107 #5 Posted July 3, 2016 Think this was down my way on Gumtree? Maybe ebay? Looks cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonianRedneck 86 #6 Posted July 3, 2016 Gumtree, Buckinghamshire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmatt01 107 #7 Posted July 3, 2016 Awesome! Look forward to seeing this running and driving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonianRedneck 86 #8 Posted July 4, 2016 she lives! :Dreground valves, tank and carb cleaned and a new spark plug, and after 26 yrs she ran this evening......runs sweetly and smooth....gearbox to tackle next! 4 Stormin, the showman, ranger and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 642 #9 Posted July 5, 2016 I saw that also. The wheel weights must be fairly rare esp on the front Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fife Plooman 632 #10 Posted July 5, 2016 Hi Nice find make it reliable rub of the flaky rust give it a good wash down and paint it with owatrol oil it will look very good and will be one of the few that have been kept original But it is your so it is your choice George S 3 Triumph66, ranger and DevonianRedneck reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #11 Posted July 5, 2016 I second that as I would do that myself and I have used Owatrol on my tiller. It really accentuate the patina. But it's yours, so do what you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #12 Posted July 5, 2016 Paint it black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #13 Posted July 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, Stormin said: Paint it black. It it could be worse, it could be magnolia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmackellow 2,738 #14 Posted July 5, 2016 Nice find, well done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonianRedneck 86 #15 Posted July 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Triumph66 said: It it could be worse, it could be magnolia! now theirs an idea,i think i'v got some in the shed........might keep costs down. seriously though i am giving the owatrol some serious thought gearbox is now free.....i can push it around which makes life easier, in theory with a new drive belt and the clutch mechanism repaired its drivable (in the roughest sense of the word) all that appeared to be wrong wrong was that the brake mechanism had welded itself together with corrosion, the band is completely shot as is the lining so one of those needs to be sourced, but i'm gonna start on the clutch mechanism tomorrow or the steering.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cub Cadet 613 #16 Posted July 5, 2016 Great find! I love these earlier horses, looks like a great project. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #17 Posted July 5, 2016 I assume you drained the gearbox, Henry. What was the oil like? If any in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonianRedneck 86 #18 Posted July 5, 2016 not too bad.....bit milky of course....but not awful....no worse than the c-120s when i bought them, have filled it with a mix of coca cola anddiesel at the moment, to flush it out a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #19 Posted July 6, 2016 I was going to suggest diesel. I mix coke with Jack Daniels. 1 DevonianRedneck reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #20 Posted July 6, 2016 thats a nice find, good luck with getting it running Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #21 Posted July 6, 2016 Hi Susie, nice to meet you She's a very nice find, I'm with the others, don't repaint her just preserve her as she is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonianRedneck 86 #22 Posted July 6, 2016 well, had a bit of a session this morning, free'ed up the steering drop arms with some help from a blow lamp and some wd40, greased them and they now move as free as a bird, steering column is still a bit tight, (some sort of bronze/brass bushing in there?) rear panel work is off, not one bolt would undo despite 2 days soaking in penetrating fluid and 3 in 1 oil, they have all sheared despite my best efforts, so will be drilling and re-tapping a lot during reassembly! the clutch mechanism is now working with the exception of the return spring and idler pulley, the bearing in this is stuck solid and the pulley "V" has rotted out in places. Had a brief look at the slot hitch and this is rusted solid, anyone got any tips on how get the pin out without damaging the gearbox or hitch? 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #23 Posted July 6, 2016 The usual way to get stuck hitch pins out is by drilling it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #24 Posted July 6, 2016 I'm with Norm on the drilling, nearly everyone I've had ive had to drill the pin out. the brake band are easy to make with flat steel and bond a lining on it with adhesive. its a nice project and your making good progress with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 524 #25 Posted July 7, 2016 That is an extremely rare model here in UK, congrats on finding it, if you keep an eye open on US eBay quite often panels come up for sale. Most of the panels are interchangeable between models , I notice that the tool box has rotten through and also the hood dash has quite some rust , great if you can repair the hood . I agree this would look awesome if kept original patina . I have a 1961 suburban that is in a similar condition but I intend to keep original patina. If you pop over to Redsquare you should be able to download a copy of the Kohler manual for and a manual for the 604 . looking forward to this one come together. 1 Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
