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David- thank you for the photos - those are very helpful. Yes, I was very glad to see the decal still on the tank. It’ll be fun cleaning this one up!

That would be great! If you do decide to give it a try let me know if it turns out ok and I’ll compensate you for it. It looks like there must be a couple flat sections that bolt to the handle section.

Unfortunately I don’t have the tools to make the bender. Any details on the dimensions, circumference?

Finally had the chance to add one of these to the collection. It’s too bad it’s missing the circular handle but it’s still super cool. The tank is pretty dinged up and it’s been used over it’s life. Overall it’s in ok condition, can’t be choosers... They seem to come up so rarely that I figured I better jump while I could. I missed out on one of these on eBay a couple years ago that was in incredible shape and went for a bargain. At that time I had only been collecting for a couple months and had no idea how rare they were. If anyone comes across an extra handle, please let me know and I’d gladly buy it. Or, if someone has a good way to replicate one I would consider that too.

Good to know- I’ve tried both directions and can’t get anything to thread but I’ll take a close look.

Excellent, thank you for all the info David! I’m hoping I can make this engine work, assuming I can re—thread the gear. Still amazes me how much info you have access to for these O&Rs.

In case anyone is curious what the inside of one of these compressors looks like. The diaphragm on this one is slightly deformed in one spot. It’s surprisingly pliable and looks like it should work ok if air doesn’t leak past the deformed area. I might try to make a new one or I might just leave it, not like this thing will get a lot of use.

Excellent - thank you!

Great, thank you. My hole pattern might vary a little anyway depending on what I can come up with for a gearbox so no worries if that’s tricky to get.

Paul, Is it possible to get the dimensions for the gearbox mounting plate or now that the unit is all assembled I’m guessing it’s probably not very accessible.

Well, maybe some good news. I went through all my stuff and found my Type 150 engine. It has a gearbox with the PTO flipped. It also has an unusual spacer in place of one of the normal legs that attaches it to the engine. This leads me to believe I might be able to rotate the whole gearbox to point in the upward direction vs down like on the chainsaws. I’ll have to pull it off and try it to confirm. If it rotates ok then this might end up being the engine I use for the compressor project. I’ll scrounge up a different gas tank. This engine looks like it might have been set up on a trimmer or something. I also found a shaft that might work. Bad news is when I went to check the fit to the gear I found that the inner threads of the gear are stripped. Not sure if it can be re-threaded but I’ll have to give it a try. I’m not out of the woods yet for the gear and shaft.

Interesting, wonder if they made this as more of a universal base to allow for different power setups. I forget what type of electric motor was on this particular one. It saved another $25 off the shipping by removing it. I’ll also have to make the mounting plate that the gearbox attaches to.

I’ll give this thing a good look tonight or this weekend now that the compressor unit is here and I can see how things line up, or don’t. I appreciate the offer on the gear and will let you know if it looks like the chainsaw gearbox might be a good option.

I think it is likely 1/2”. I’ll have to look in my stuff as well. I had a shaft at one point but I think it might have been a smaller diameter. The compressor just arrived today. Unfortunately the aluminum casting foot on the bottom that works as a spacer on the base plate broke during shipping, or when the previous owner removed the electric motor. I’ll have to try to epoxy this and repair it.

Either way sounds good to me. I can buy the gear off you and give it a try or if you want to try it first that’s great too. If it does work I’ll have to figure out how to get a tapered shaft made to fit up. As you also pointed out , the orientation of the gearbox being down vs up might be important. I need to verify that either orientation will line up properly. I’m going to look through all my stuff again tonight. I could swear I had a gear box or complete engine that had an external shaft gear box. I’ll let you know if I get lucky and find it.

This is genius, I think it is worth a try!

Interesting idea - thanks! Would you just have to drill out the opposite side of the cover plate for the shaft to go through? Not sure how you would reorient the little bearings that ride on the short section of the shaft(I’m trying to think by memory) but I’ll have to take a closer look at this tonight. I’m intrigued though...

Exactly. I had forgotten the PTO was flipped. At first I thought the compressors just had direct drive until I looked a little closer, I wasn’t expecting it to use a gear box.

Thanks David! I thought I had a used gearbox like this but turns out I don’t. I have an engine I think I can use but need to figure out what to do for a gearbox.

What other tools might have used this type of gearbox?

That’s got you written all over it John! You’ve probably got the stuff in your collection to pull together a replica

Wow, amazing website! You truly have an incredible pedal and gas powered car collection. That has to be one of the coolest uses of the O&R engine. I’m glad you found this forum and I hope we can help get you the missing parts. JustO&R- let me know what you find. I’ll try to take a look as well, not sure I have any extra/complete recoils.

Those are gorgeous, what a cool car! I even like the older one in sweaty condition. You’ve got quite the pair of collectible cars!

Good eye! That could very well be, and would make for an amazing find!

That can definitely be restored. Looks like a new spring and pull know would do it plus some major TLC. I’m also very curious what this engine is attached to! More photos?