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It looks nice in blue, did you find a carb for it?
I have a cylinder plate stamped with the correct engine type for this, if you need it.
Looks like you need to replace the starter missing rivet too.
Earlier outboards (pictured below, not mine) had the standard round tank with a different bracket to rotate the tank 90 degrees, so that the filler cap was at the top.
I've also noticed the plastic cover for the carb filter gauze matches the colour of the starter housing. According to the 13A246 parts list these were not fitted with a kill switch either.
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I thought the O&R/AEP brochures section of the manuals sticky thread was looking a bit bare with only one brochure, so I've created two new PDF's for the AEP Series 13B & 20A engine brochures. Some of the fine detail is not great on these PDF's, if anyone wants higher resolution PDF's I will see what I can do.
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Earlier today at work I was thinking the name Devillaine sounded familiar, just checked on the web archive now I'm home and found the old thread (now dead of course).
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Not tried to yet, but it shouldn't be too hard to find an O-ring with the correct diameter and thickness, maybe harder over here as we mostly use metric stuff.
By the way I have never found anywhere selling seals anything like those originally used.
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I got my carb rebuild kits from Webhead, they are original O&R rebuild kits with some extra parts not found in the K10-HDC kit.
@revmix used one of the generic K10-HDC repair kits bought on eBay.
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Try asking Webhead, he may still have some original O&R rebuild kits, that's where I got mine from.
@revmix used a K10-HDC repair kit from China bought on eBay.
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That seems to be the website of a French Auction house, I see the starter is non-functional as usual and it still made 19000 Euros.
Could that be the most expensive O&R powered item?
Devillaine seem to have mostly made pedal cars from what I can find out.
Another one here at a classic car show;
http://www.voitureapedales.fr/devillaine-ouragan/
And another that was advertised for £9500;
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C923932
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There is a blue starter amongst neons parts, I imagine it was originally on the Aquabug he also has. I've also seen one other Aquabug outboard with a blue starter.
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Those pull knobs are both made of wood, the first 6000 (approx) engines had them finished in clear lacquer/varnish and others from the early 1960's had them painted black. I would suggest finding someone with a wood turning lathe and have some made if you can't find any.
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No it wasn't that one, it was the first one I've seen in the UK for about five years.
It has a blue starter housing with black handle, shaft, gearbox & propeller (also most of the engine is painted as per the Aquabug manual).
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Same here !
They are definitely very common in the US at least, I've imported five of them including the Model 5001-1 (that the manual came with) and rare Model 400 (110V DC version).
I should really sell one of the duplicate Model 300's, but I think I paid too much for it.
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I have finally scanned & added the instructions for the late 1960's Tiny Tiger generator (Holly Products Corp.) to the manuals sticky thread, it can be found in "section 4: tool specific manuals".
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I've just had a look at the pictures on the ebay listing, apparently they used the Olsen and Rice engine.
At least that explains why these engines get misspelt so often.
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Nice find, it's probably best to email some high resolution scanned images and I can create a pdf for the manuals sticky thread.
Pictures in posts are limited in resolution to save server space.
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PM sent.
Clint, it's in the equipment manuals section (outside the O&R section) which can be found on the right hand side of the main MOM homepage, maybe the filetype is incompatible with posts.
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I have sometimes found appropriate sized rods in old/broken tape recorder mechanisms, usually salvaged from old stereos that have been thrown out (so cost is free ).
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The rotor has permanent magnets, these will be attracted to the steel parts of the stator that the coils are wound around, therefore it won't spin freely.
If it's rubbing could there be some swarf stuck in there somewhere.
There is a warning on the Regina Champ to not remove the rotor, maybe it would lose some magnetism.
Not sure what you mean about the oil, is there some residue in the bottom of the casing?
Interesting to see the coupling is different to the Regina Champ version too.
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Thanks for confirming that Paul (and for adding pictures of the rest of the flyer), E.P. Barrus Ltd. were the distributor of Orline products in the UK.
Barrus are still going, they moved from Acton in London to Bicester in 1977 and turned 100 in 2017, an interactive history page is on their website here;
https://www.barrus.co.uk/about-us/barrus-celebrates-100-years/
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Apologies Joe, I keep the sticky thread locked so it doesn't end up a mess like the previous version did, I created a comments thread to go with it too (I will add finds to the title of it).
Thanks for spotting that Drillgine advert, I've converted the picture to pdf and unloaded it to the sticky thread in the "tool specific" section.
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I'm curious to know if that is a flyer from EP Barrus or part of a newspaper, also was it dated?
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Thanks for confirming that John, I thought it might be for a foot throttle control, it looks like it has a lever at the other end for the carb.
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Being located across the pond I have no idea who either the Bruins or Blues are, will google it later.
Back on topic, I noticed earlier in the week that there should be a guard over part of the belt drive section.
Also is that cable/tube underneath the board attached to what looks like a foot pedal for the throttle control or something else, is the long spring part of this too?
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Welcome to the forum Alex and thanks for posting pictures of your Tiny Tiger.
It looks like it maybe the very common Model 300 (the band around the generator with these details is missing), these don't make anywhere near that (where did you get the 350 figure from?) as they were very popular in the 1960's and so many have survived.
From your pictures I can see the condenser needs a repair, the spark-plug lead reattaching and the cylinder side plate is missing, also I can't tell if the primer button is missing from the carb or if the carb has one of the top covers without this.
Model 300 Tiny Tiger generators in this condition typically make around $75 to $125. Rarer models with the larger tank and boxed like new ones can make around $200 to $250 or sometimes more dependant on the number of interested buyers at the time.
Here is a current screen-grab of completed listings on eBay.com, even that very nice condition complete Tiny Tiger with paperwork only made $138.
Hope this helps with the value and I'm sorry if it seems a lot lower than you thought.
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Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing some pictures of your O&R powered Toby Cart skateboard.
We have come across the Halicki motorised skateboard before in this thread;
But I hadn't spotted the name Toby Cart before, which is just visible in the first picture in the above linked thread.
There are a couple of different motorised skateboards (including what looks like the Halicki/Toby Cart) in the July 1965 edition of Popular Mechanics magazine; Popular Mechanics July 1965 (Motorised Skateboards)
It seems Henry Blight Halicki aka Toby Halicki had a few different names according to Wikipedia.
The website below states that he invented the Toby Cart motorised skateboard aged 21, which would be somewhere around 1964-1965 and it was featured on several TV shows including; Johnny Carson's Tonight Show, The Lucy Show and The Monkees.
http://ampoleagle.com/a-dunkirk-legend-in-the-making-p2615-146.htm
From what I can see in addition to the missing tank & carb, you will also need a tank strap, the two carb/induction housing flange gaskets, an air filter, the other cylinder plate & a UY6 spark-plug. All of those parts are commonly missing from O&R engines, but they do turn up from time to time on eBay, or it may be easier and cheaper to buy a donor engine. The carb will be one with a diaphragm primer button & needle valve on top.
The Model J engine is one of versions that had a reduction gearbox (900rpm output, 6.9921 to 1 gear ratio), they also seem to turn occasionally on eBay. In my collection I have a barely used JI that I imported from the US and a rough JIII that I found in the UK (which I intend to get running again at some point).
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As far I know I have never seen an exploded view or parts list for any version of the Amp Champ, should I add a wanted section to the manuals thread?
This is the only advert I have seen for the Amp-Champ (apart from the magazine articles), I can't remember where on the web the picture came from.
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