nigel 1,876 #251 Posted January 14, 2015 didnt that front wheel used to be YELLOW ian 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #252 Posted January 17, 2015 didnt that front wheel used to be YELLOW ian It's not a JD wheel, it was just painted the wrong colour at the factory And speaking of strange coloured front wheels, the time had come to cut one of the centers out... The wheel is slightly too large to fit on my lathe, but it will fit on Nigel's lathe with a few tweaks.. A bit of chain drilling and chisel work later.. The inside of the wheel had some extra cutting to make the hole a little larger.. And on the lathe the wheel went. The inside taking shape. A few hours later... And to finish up this small update, a groove being cut in one of the new centers. This will center the new center in the rim 5 ranger, meadowfield, diggerjames and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #253 Posted January 18, 2015 Ian, You are making progress; impressive workmanship. Are you halfway through your project? Cheers 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #254 Posted January 18, 2015 Hi Andrew, yes maybe about half way now... Once I have tacked the last of the hard/big stuff which is the front end steering and brakes, the rest should be fairly easy to sort... But there is a lot of "easy stuff" to get done 4 rotoscytheben, nigel, Triumph66 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robins 55 #255 Posted January 19, 2015 I'm very envious of your lathe work Ian! Project Why Not is coming on really nicely 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #256 Posted January 20, 2015 I'm very envious of your lathe work Ian! Project Why Not is coming on really nicely Don't be envious mate, your a talented fabricator and should have no problems with a lathe.. 1 Robins reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Smith 192 #257 Posted January 20, 2015 Coming along very nicely Ian, I cant wait to see the finished project.... stationary that is, because when its moving i don't reckon we'll be able to see much of it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #258 Posted January 21, 2015 Thanks Charlie, t will take a while yet until it's finished.. But it will be worth the wait A bit more progress today with one of the front wheels almost finished.. Two new wheel centers, can you spot which one is finished? It slots into the wheel like so from the inside. And looks like this from the outside.. A close up for you.. I couldn't be happier with the fit I need to grind a V shape into the two parts of the wheel to give me something to fill full of weld.. Once the weld is cleaned back you won't know it's not original.. Until you look at the inside of course The wheel is a nice tight fit on the wheel hub.. I have also been thinking about the front brakes.. There is just enough room to get a Kwakasaki Gpz 305 caliper and a small brake disc inside the wheel, though I have a feeling I might need to make my own brake discs!! Has anyone ever tried it and did they work? 2 Triumph66 and the showman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ranger 373 #259 Posted January 21, 2015 Hi Ian I may have some small discs off one of our machines,I'll have a look tomorrow. 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #260 Posted January 27, 2015 Thanks Doug, I will have a measure up today.. I know that the max diameter is 6 inches.. A video for you chaps. 3 Triumph66, nigel and the showman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #261 Posted January 27, 2015 awesome! 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #262 Posted January 27, 2015 Fantastic Ian, very interesting as always, I'm not to old to learn after all 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 1,016 #263 Posted January 28, 2015 Some Fab Fabbing work from a fine 'Fabber' Ian . Great work and progress . 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #264 Posted January 31, 2015 awesome! Thanks Mark. Fantastic Ian, very interesting as always, I'm not to old to learn after all Were never too old to learn Chris Some Fab Fabbing work from a fine 'Fabber' Ian . Great work and progress . Thanks Richard.. It's all guess work really An update for you chaps.. Both front wheels are now re centered and fully welded up... Here's the second wheel. And now onto something new for me.. Making a front end that is not only strong, handles and steers well, but also has brakes.. As you will of seen in my last update I toyed with the brakes idea, yesterday was the day to see if I could make it work.. But rather than cutting and turning steel I made a fake brake disc from scrap ally just to see what could be made to fit.. The disc is 5" diameter and 4mm thick.. Time to dig out a bit of history.. One of the twin caliper mounting plates.. And the "Stig Double pumper" both of which were part of my 6X6's ill fated brake steer system.. It's a tight, but a Qwakasaki Gpz305 caliper will just about fit in the wheel rim.. Even better is I can get the steering pivot points rather close to the wheel, the bottom one might even fit inside the wheel which will make for better steering If you think of this wheel as the left side with the caliper at the rear inside and the ruler being the pivot point you will get the idea.. So now I know my brake idea can be made to fit I need a way of mounting the brake disc to the inside of the wheel hub... Lot's of measuring and scribbling later, a plan... Off cut's of steel are always handy to have about the place The start of the first wheel hub brake adapter thingy.... And this Gent's brings the build up to date.. 7 Anglo Traction, Vinnetrow, Triumph66 and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #265 Posted February 1, 2015 There's a lot thinking and planning behind these projects. I am, yet again, amazed at the pace you're setting yourself Ian. More good work and I await further progress with interest. Cheers. 2 Ian and the showman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #266 Posted February 6, 2015 There's a lot thinking and planning behind these projects. I am, yet again, amazed at the pace you're setting yourself Ian. More good work and I await further progress with interest. Cheers. Thanks Andrew, there isn't much planning going on, but plenty of thinking does happen I don't think I'm working at a fast pace.. I would like to get more done faster than I am doing but my brain and body can only handle so much! After lot's of turning the lump of green painted steel in the lathe in my last update turned into this spacer/brake hub thingy.. Next up in the lathe was a stripped down wheel hub.. Notched.. The spacer/brake hub thingy is a perfect fit And now for the brake disc starting with this 5 inch square of 5mm thick steel... I've no idea what the coating is or what they do during the manufacturing process but this steel is very hard stuff which is quite handy for a brake disc, but it makes it a right pig to turn on the lathe! Getting there.. Almost there... Spacer thingy and disc.. It all fit's inside the wheel... Just A hint of things to come... I can't do anymore brake or steering work until some carbide cutting tips and some rather hefty rose joints turn up.. It will be nice to get away from the lathe for a while anyway 2 Vinnetrow and rotoscytheben reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #267 Posted February 6, 2015 So today I decided I'd have a look at the fender pan and seat mounting... There is only one way to work out where the seat will go.... Yep, that feels about right This is the start of the seat/fender pan mounting frame, I do need to add more but I need the fender pan to fit first so I can work out what's what.. Hhmm... The fender pan needs a bit of work to make it fit.. It need to be wider and the bit the seat bolts onto need to be about 6 inches lower!! Let's tackle the widening bit first.. The original fender pan was very rotten in the middle and at the back, but I kept the "arches" parts should they come in handy one day A 2 1/4 section was sliced from the spares arch and plonked roughly in place.. Due to fender pans having lot's of different curves and contours a few tweaks will be needed A bit of cutting and welding later and the fender pan was wider one side with matching curves up top.. Oo-er missus The front and back don't quite line up, but I can't work that bit out until the center of the fender pan is in place.. You can see how much wider it is compared to the left side. And that Gent's is this build up to date other than....... A video 8 Triumph66, nigel, the showman and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #268 Posted February 6, 2015 I was viewer no.1 on the vid this morning, loving the brakes.... And how wide!! 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil 524 #269 Posted February 7, 2015 Once again another great video Ian , 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slf-uk 914 #270 Posted February 7, 2015 Further great work and I enjoyed the pictures and video 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ranger 373 #271 Posted February 9, 2015 Hi Ian I may have some small discs off one of our machines,I'll have a look tomorrow. Hi Ian, sorry to take so long, The discs I thought might be OK are a casting complete with a 'hub' which attaches to a hydraulic wheel motor, these take 8" wheels with a 4" pcd, ( made in Canada ) but the centre doesn't have enough meat to bore out for bearings. I have some other discs which are a bit bigger but around 4mm thick off a different machine, You are welcome to these if you can use them 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #272 Posted February 11, 2015 Thanks Doug, that's very kind of you.. For now I will give my home made discs a whirl and see how they work.. If they don't you may well get a PM With both sides of the fender pan widened but not fully welded.. It was time to sort out the drop in the middle.. A dig through the pile of scrap metal on site produced a couple of metal shelves which were just the right thickness... A bit of chopping and tack welding later and although not perfect the arches bit were looking good.. They do need to be angled down towards the front a bit more. Inner arch panels fully welded.. Looking from the inside, I think that could be classed as good welding penetration And here's how it looked by the end of yesterday. The arch extensions each side have been fully welded and all welds smoothed down. The bit's of steel across the top are only there to hold the arches square until I can get some strength added.. I was viewer no.1 on the vid this morning, loving the brakes....And how wide!! And I was viewer number on your vid the other day It's not as wide as it looks in the photo's.. Once again another great video Ian , Thanks Neil Further great work and I enjoyed the pictures and video Ta muchly Iain 4 Vinnetrow, Triumph66, nigel and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slf-uk 914 #273 Posted February 11, 2015 Looking good. It looks like a hard bit will be to get the back looking right, especially with the shaped bit on the end. What's your plan? 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #274 Posted February 11, 2015 That's looking good Ian. Are you putting an armchair on your creation?; it's plenty wide enough! 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #275 Posted February 12, 2015 Looking good. It looks like a hard bit will be to get the back looking right, especially with the shaped bit on the end. What's your plan? Thanks Iain... My plan to get the back looking right? See below That's looking good Ian. Are you putting an armchair on your creation?; it's plenty wide enough! Ta muchly Andrew.. An armchair is an interesting thought, but there isn't the space.. The photo's make things look wider than they are.. This morning started with some cardboard templates to try and work out what would look right.. But before I could turn the cardboard into steel I need to A... Make the center bit first.. And B.. Find some steel to make it out of! Treasures from the scrap pile Adding a curve to the center bit.. Yes that is a broom handle I'm about to fold the metal around As it turned out the curve was a tad too tight so it was reshaped around a scaffold pole.. As Nigel (thanks mate ) has a bead rolling machine I thought I'd put it to good use and roll the traditional Wh swage line in the back.. And now the part which ties the arches and center section together... I need to tweak the shape a little and add the swage line tomorrow, then it can be welded in... I have to say I'm quite chuffed about how the back end has come together A view from underneath.. The flanges will be staying as they will add a handy bit of strength to things once they are plug welded together. The flange will also be used for mounting the fender pan, keeping the mounting bolts nicely hidden away.. 7 rotoscytheben, Triumph66, pmackellow and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
