Ian 2,417 #601 Posted January 27, 2016 I nearly got run over filming this I hope you know, all for the love of MOM You were busy hiding behind the quad I recall If you have ever wondered what it's like to drive Project Why Not, this video should give you a good idea 6 ranger, diggerjames, nigel and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #602 Posted January 27, 2016 no wonder you cant drive in a strait line , you dont look where your going you look at the steering wheel all the time 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #603 Posted January 27, 2016 awesome! 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diggerjames 543 #604 Posted January 28, 2016 Brilliant mate 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mg_rob 70 #605 Posted January 31, 2016 That looks great fun. Who needs a cutting deck, a few laps round your lawn on Why Not and it would save you from having to cut the grass for a while 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan 1,273 #606 Posted January 31, 2016 That looks great fun. Who needs a cutting deck, a few laps round your lawn on Why Not and it would save you from having to cut the grass for a while Yes, looks fun but it would probably be easier to cut the grass the old fashioned way than having to spend hours cleaning up Why Not and a pair of nutters. A pressure wash of all three might help though. 2 Ian and nigel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #607 Posted January 31, 2016 no wonder you cant drive in a strait line , you dont look where your going you look at the steering wheel all the time You need to look a couple of feet in front of you to see the pot holes.. The bouncing is so bad you can't see anymore than a couple of feet in front anyway awesome! Thanks Mark. Brilliant mate Thanks James That looks great fun. Who needs a cutting deck, a few laps round your lawn on Why Not and it would save you from having to cut the grass for a while Thanks Rob. As luck would have it, it's not my grass I'm tearing up so I don't have to worry about cutting it Yes, looks fun but it would probably be easier to cut the grass the old fashioned way than having to spend hours cleaning up Why Not and a pair of nutters. A pressure wash of all three might help though. Hi Alan, I wouldn't want the pressure washer jet anywhere near me.. It can strip paint off things 30ft away!! Afternoon all, with Project Horse Gut finished apart from a couple of little bits, I have turned back to Project Why Not and the exhaust flame system.. Starting at the top, the green paint on the flame fuel tank just had to go.. That's better, paint stripped then blasted with some red oxide.. The flame fuel pump will be going about here... It is a little higher than the tank, but once it's been primed a fuel tap and not return valve should stop it from trying to drain out. 25ft of brake pipe and some pipe connectors turned up in the post.. I had been wondering what to use as jets in the exhausts until I noticed a couple of knackered Wheel Horse carbs on the rack.. Both carbs put up a fight but I managed to get the jets out.. As it turns out they are a nice tight fit over the brake pipe.. A bit of tweaking later had a small hole blocked at the end and the threaded bit ground away. I expect the jets will get clogged up once in a while so I had to find a way of making them removable.. So into the lathe went a bolt.. A little while later.. Ta- Daa removable jets They are both a nice tight pressure fit so shouldn't come out in a hurry... How the brass will cope with the heat I don't know.. One way to find out I guess 5 Vinnetrow, the showman, Alan and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vinnetrow 129 #608 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) The copper exhaust pipes on the Villiers Twin could withstand the heat, even with a 180 degree bend. I know brass has a lower boiling point, but they should be okay, if not slightly discoloured Edited February 1, 2016 by Vinnetrow 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #609 Posted February 4, 2016 The copper exhaust pipes on the Villiers Twin could withstand the heat, even with a 180 degree bend. I know brass has a lower boiling point, but they should be okay, if not slightly discoloured Thanks Max, that gives me hope that the jets won't suddenly turn into a molten puddle Before the flame jets were fitted the exhausts got a good clean up and a coat of red oxide.. Red oxide isn't a "high temperature" paint, but the over spray that had got onto the pipes hadn't burnt or flaked off despite WN getting lots of muddy thrashings about the place, so I thought a coat wouldn't hurt and help keep any possible future rust at bay. One of the jets welded in.. Well, the nut not the jet Speaking of jets, I needed to give the home made jets a smoke test to see how they flow... That should do Nigel dug out his brake pipe flaring tool.. I've no idea on the make but it is very old, very well made and easy to use.. A proper tool in this age of cheap tat! Here it is in action flaring a short section.. Which Nigel then soldered into the jet. A steam Punk exhaust.. The fencing wire won't be staying, once I know the flames work then I will make some weld on clips to stop the brake pipe from moving. That fits well.. Fitting the flame fuel tank took a bit of thinking about.. I could of just welded a couple of bits of box to the tank and bolt them to the frame... But I didn't want to spoil the look of the tank which is a nice shape, so I made up some nice brackets.. Fitted but not fully welded.. I'm happy with how it fits in the small space that's the only place left to fit it The final spark set-up.. This produces very good sparks at both plugs and as Nigel and I found out yesterday it has no problem lighting TVO....... On the bench that is.. With all wiring and plumbing done on the flame set-up there was only one thing left to do...... Yep try it out.... No flames just lots of smoke and TVO pouring out the exhausts!! A bit of over fueling me thinks that just floods the spark plugs! That should be an easy fix tomorrow... The smoke looked good though 4 nigel, the showman, meadowfield and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the showman 4,074 #610 Posted February 4, 2016 Looks like a lot of vapour, did you try throwing a fag butt at it ? 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #611 Posted February 4, 2016 i think he would have gone up in flames if i had chris 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #612 Posted February 10, 2016 Looks like a lot of vapour, did you try throwing a fag butt at it ? Lucky for me he didn't i think he would have gone up in flames if i had chris As we found out mate, it wouldn't of quite happened like that! As it turned out the only way we could get the mix (a strong TVO mix, 50/50 paraffin and petrol) to light was in the workshop in controlled conditions! Which means we put a very small amount in a tin lid and checked to see if the spark plug would light it. It did!! But pump the warmed up mix into the end of an exhaust and give it a spark... No Joy! Even trying to light it with a blow torch didn't work, it just kept blowing the torch out even at tick-over! And there chaps is the root of the flame thrower problem, the exhaust gasses are so great they blow the spark on the plugs out! I could change the spark plugs for glow plugs, but as a blow torch won't light it I can't see that glow plugs would! Sooooo.... Flames are out I'm afraid but.... I do have another idea.. I won't give anything away other than despite spending a long time trawling the internet, I can't find any sign of anyone anywhere trying this or even asking if it's possible In other news I have a pair of small headlamps for Why Not... I'm sure some of you can guess where they came from They need a bit of work, the chrome is too far gone with deep rust pitting for them to be re-chromed and the yellow bulbs just have to go.. It was a bit hard to hold a lamp in place and take a photo at the same time, but this will give you an idea... I need to mock up some brackets and roll WN outside so I can get a good look, hopefully they won't make WN look all "Toy Town" 2 C-101plowerpower and ranger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #613 Posted February 10, 2016 Won't they get a bit mucky that low? 2 Ian and nigel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #614 Posted February 12, 2016 Won't they get a bit mucky that low? Don't worry Norm, I will fit a "wash/wipe" system to the lights The latest WN video for you chaps. 4 nigel, the showman, S1g and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ranger 373 #615 Posted February 12, 2016 Lucky for me he didn't As we found out mate, it wouldn't of quite happened like that! As it turned out the only way we could get the mix (a strong TVO mix, 50/50 paraffin and petrol) to light was in the workshop in controlled conditions! Which means we put a very small amount in a tin lid and checked to see if the spark plug would light it. It did!! But pump the warmed up mix into the end of an exhaust and give it a spark... No Joy! Even trying to light it with a blow torch didn't work, it just kept blowing the torch out even at tick-over! And there chaps is the root of the flame thrower problem, the exhaust gasses are so great they blow the spark on the plugs out! I could change the spark plugs for glow plugs, but as a blow torch won't light it I can't see that glow plugs would! Sooooo.... Flames are out I'm afraid but.... I do have another idea.. I won't give anything away other than despite spending a long time trawling the internet, I can't find any sign of anyone anywhere trying this or even asking if it's possible In other news I have a pair of small headlamps for Why Not... I'm sure some of you can guess where they came from They need a bit of work, the chrome is too far gone with deep rust pitting for them to be re-chromed and the yellow bulbs just have to go.. It was a bit hard to hold a lamp in place and take a photo at the same time, but this will give you an idea... I need to mock up some brackets and roll WN outside so I can get a good look, hopefully they won't make WN look all "Toy Town" looks great Ian Do you think you are getting enough oxygen in the mix? Have You tried a spark plug at the end of the tailpipe on the out side, a little way back so air could be mixed in before the spark, I suppose it's possible you could be trying to ignite fuel and carbon monoxide. You could always add nitrous oxide in the mix to increase the oxygen . With your skills I'm sure you could fabricate some sort of combustion chamber to fit around the end of the pipe to create a venturi effect using the exhaust gasses to pull clean air and fuel in from around the outside of the pipe with the plug firing it at the end. Maybe just a length of larger pipe around the end of the exhaust would do with the outer pipe sticking out further than the inner to get the 'draw' (similar to the old 'airline' powered vacuum cleaners) and the fuel injected between the two, Just a thought, 2 nigel and Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #616 Posted February 13, 2016 You might have a point with the lack of oxygen in the mix, I do have an interesting idea that would give me full control on how much air, how much mix goes into the exhaust and it would also atomize the mix better.. It might still come to fitting a flame thrower system, but I'm hoping my new idea will work instead.. But more on that when it happens Yesterday the front of my workshop looked like a mower dealers Two of them are for sale as it happens, just not my two Other than having a bit of tidy up (the workshop needed it) the reason for parking everything out front was to make space for putting my big bench up again so WN can get stripped down and painted.. For the past er... 8 odd years I've been using a bench that basically was a large computer desk with a very large slab of thick chipboard as a top. It served me well for many a year with WN, the 6x6 and others being built on it.. However when WN was taken off the bench late last year it didn't fair too well, broke a few welds and the frame got twisted.. So yesterday a new bench frame was constructed.... Thanks for all you help and welding yesterday Nigel It's a bit hard to tell from this photo but it has a hanging shelf frame.. I just need to add a few more bit's of box and some boards.. When I find some I will be fitting some strong castor wheels to the legs so I can move the bench about when I need to.. 4 S1g, nigel, meadowfield and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meadowfield 1,900 #617 Posted February 15, 2016 Doug is right, I doubt there's any oxygen in order to get the correct stoic mix. You could try stopping the spark to the engine when you go for flames.... 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #618 Posted February 18, 2016 Doug is right, I doubt there's any oxygen in order to get the correct stoic mix. You could try stopping the spark to the engine when you go for flames.... I've tried all variations Mark, even creating a serious miss fire to try and ignite the flame mix didn't work! It has to be a lack of air as Doug said... But hopefully that won't be a problem after tomorrow Nothing to report on WN other than my big bench has gained it's top ready for when I strip her down for painting. 2 ranger and nigel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ranger 373 #619 Posted February 18, 2016 "Lack of air won't be a problem after tomorrow?" could we be seeing an oxygen bottle installed? I think you should add a couple of pulse jets 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #620 Posted February 19, 2016 "Lack of air won't be a problem after tomorrow?" could we be seeing an oxygen bottle installed? I think you should add a couple of pulse jets Well, the problem is still there!! Don't you just hate it when you pay extra to get something delivered earlier only for it not to turn up when it should of done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 2,417 #621 Posted March 1, 2016 Evening chaps, progress on WN has been very slow of late, but that will change on Thursday when progress will suddenly be very fast I've been playing with headlamp positions, bearing in mind if I do decide to fit them they will have much better looking "hot rod" curved brackets.. So the question is.... Do the lamps make WN look all "toy Town" or not? So why will progress start going very fast Thursday?? Well, today this happened.. WN being winched onto the big bench.. Thanks for your help Nigel Thursday is strip down day, I feel a time lapse video coming on I might have a few machines to move out the way first mind 5 Cub Cadet, Triumph66, S1g and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel 1,876 #622 Posted March 1, 2016 They look poofy 1 Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph66 1,256 #623 Posted March 1, 2016 Toy Town I am afraid Iain. Well you did ask! 2 nigel and Ian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 4,458 #624 Posted March 1, 2016 Never mind those two. Look ok to me Ian. 2 Ian and Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diggerjames 543 #625 Posted March 2, 2016 Look good to me Ian 2 Ian and Triumph66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
