Anglo Traction

Hi Ray, Just checked Jacks small engines online with your engine type number -LINK- And the Parts Manual (1979) I have for that engine model It shows the Gasket Set part number to be 299577 ?. My old 'Osprey' thread is in the 'Other Garden Machines' Forum section if it is any help for reference. - OSPREY- Regards

I have to admit, I do like these little O&R engines and the tooling they design for them to power. Not a fan of Chainsaws, but I like my little 71 Baird Poulan. Your project subject looks interesting. Is the saw chain 1/4" pitch and the blade 12" ?. Also looks to have a manual oil pump?. Regards

No shame in going Yellow Mark!. Always liked these myself. Hope all's well. I think the giveaway in finding the right spec of K241 is the effort someone has gone to in shoehorning and chopping out to fit that engine. The correct spec is K241-a (not 241s) spec should be 46700d and used the delco remy starter gen. Then again I'm no expert, but the mating of the engine to the drive is the relevant bit. I suppose it depends if you're planning to put it back to close original?. Good to see some more build projects on here though. I'll check in more often. Regards.

Excellent work Ewan, well done !.

Superb job on that Nigel . Even more of an acheivement when it looks like it still has a V70 Techy with a series 1 Lauson carb! and you get it running sweetly.

Hi all, thanks for the positive responses. Certainly a different way of working when producing scale models without plans or castings etc. Everything takes longer and a lot of thinking. Managed to reach a point of trial fitting the spray bar parts today which I've been working on for a while- I stripped the chrome off of a 60s car aerial section which was the right size in hard straight brass (5/32" or <4mm). I failed with reproducing the flanged connecting pipe, as it should be straight and I had to 'dog leg' it to line up. Probably as a result from having to work from a basic drawing for sizes of a similar make of cart. Still, it's a reasonable representation until I can get to M.E.R.L to inspect the company's original drawings. The retaining brackets were an excercise in miniature milling and retained with 12ba coach bolts/nuts- Time to start drilling loads of tiny holes............I may be some time !. Regards

Very nice (jigsaw) project you have there Nigel !. I'm impressed that your Blaster/Powder Coat man takes the trouble to wrap/protect all the parts for return.

You/Mark were my next port of call as a suggestion to Angus, as I remember the project Ewan .

Maybe worth checking again with Nigel. Looks the same size as fitted to H50/60,V70 etc (31715) - . I had to obtain missing parts from the states 9 years ago for this derelict H60 Rotavator as no availability in UK (used or new)- Nigel's V70 Lawn Ranger... looks pretty close without checking parts lists - Good luck with sorting it.

Thanks Norm, Nigel. Soldered the 2 halves of the tank together, but left the end plates for now, as need access. Much of the work over the last 6 weeks has been doing fiddly parts. Because this project is all 'Scratch Built'', I want to keep the parts as scale size to the original. The water outlet/valve is an example and is a simple 'Bottle' style valve running in guides. The joint faces are metal to metal (no seals)- The faces that contact the inside/outside of the tank are contoured to a close fit. The weighted lever sits 'over centre' when closed, which applies pressure on the Spring Stainless rod and so on the valve face/seat to improve the water tight seal. Another view to show the valve/seat and the fabricated outlet with correctly bolted (12BA) flange. This will lead to a Sprinkler Bar as per original- Hardwood support legs finished to size. A range of steel coach bolts with square/hex nuts, and an alternative flanged outlet elbow for supply to the Traction Engine tank. The ball on the end of the pump handle is 1/16" (1.6mm) diameter- Hose hooks are 0.010" (.25mm) shim steel annealed for drilling and bending, then re hardened and tempered to spring grade. Screws are 14BA- Finally got the wheels done last night and are retained by blind 'Top Hat' caps with a cross pin, as per the full size. Pins are 3/64" (1.25mm) - Going to be a shame to cover this in paint

Ok Norm, I'm not the world's expert on wiring, but I got it right twice on WH rewires., I reckon if you have the right type of switch?, you have a constant live supply to the Solenoid through the switch when turned on, this constantly makes your starter turn, so the wire must be on the wrong blade on the back of the switch. At least the Solenoid is working ok. If you have no safety switches (Seat, PTO, Pedal), then the Red wire goes from the 'S' Blade on the back of the ignition Switch directly to the small terminal on the Solenoid. The Ammeter is showing - (minus) amps because the constantly running starter motor is drawing the current that would normally be recharging the battery. Check the Ammeter is correctly wired Pos & Neg though. Looking at your pics, I see an awful lot of red wires which will be very confusing to you if someone has messed about with the colour coding. Here is an amended diagram to reflect the absence of a primary safety switch (one left in to represent the PTO switch)- The 2 wires (shown dotted) from the Alternator (may be grey or purple) can be transposed on the Rectifier as the supply is AC. The output through the Orange wire to the Ign Switch is DC. Ignition Switch is earthed through it's body and is essential for the ammeter etc to work properly. Keep at it.

Hi Norm, You don't say what model it is, so I presume it's 1980/81 which uses a 3 position/5 pin 103990 Ign Switch. I've handed my C-120 Info on to Roly with the Tractor, but checked for comparison using parts list. This diagram should be identical for you to check yours- The solenoid may look non serviceable, but I only needs 4 rivets drilling out and replacing after a clean out. Covered it in my C-120/Raider update if you want a link?. Hope it helps. Edit - 103990 switch pins are marked- S- Safety Switch/ Sol Start. R- Rectifier. A- Accessories (lights). I - Igntion (poss via seat safety switch) . B - Battery/Ammeter .

Wick is usually raised and lowered by a wheel that grips the wick. The top section of the burner should lift off of the fuel tank to expose it and replace the wixk when necessary. A picture would help?. A bit older than your heater, but relevant -

Thanks Ewan. I fancied a change last few weeks, as it has been a bit cold. So I turned my hand to learning to steam bend and shape some hardwood for the shafts, even though I'm making a steel framed drawbar to connect to the T/Engine. The shafts came out well as a matched pair and have nearly finished all the 'Ironwork' fittings which were a bit fiddlely to shape in a small size- I'm a bit slow on the tank work, as I need to plan the stages before I begin to rivet/solder up the sections......then there is Xmas!.

I prefer to always log off from Sites/Forums and clear all history+ other data after disconnecting Wi Fi every time. Never had any log in issues anywhere using windows7 and Googy Chrome. I'm not clear on the 'Always Logged in' situ. Can't get my head around it, as if someone says they always remain logged in to a Site/Forum, why does it not show the Username on the 'Who's Online' section at the bottom of the Home page?. Some Forums I use automatically drop you out after a period of inactivity. Then again, I am maybe over cautious. I hope the cause of the problem is able to be resolved and explained.

Looks like you've nearly 'got it nailed' Ian !.

Sorry to hear you're having problems Alain. Would be sorry to see you go and your absence would leave a large void here. Persevere and try Karl's advice. Don't ever let any IT gremlins grind you down. I've just beaten Ford UK into submission with their website after a frustrating 3 weeks (punch air)......... ....and I'm no expert!.

Nice project Chris. I made a new bush for the C120. Used bronze and pressed in. Too expensive to ship one over and not available here.

Thanks Expeatfarmer (and Alan). Glad to say the Wheels are finished . Lots of time spent shaping the Hubs to represent castings like the originals. Glad I made a few riveting tools many years ago. Shown here is one I made especially to suit the Traction Engine Wheels with tight spaces to get into. Worked a treat on 1/16" dia copper rivets- Even more detail with the Oiler Tubes with screw on caps- Barely a perceptible wobble in these, but will ream the bores again to run perfectly true. Back to working on the Tank and fittings. An example of pics I use as reference (courtesy of a T/engine Forum user)- Helps me with scale and detail. I'm making the outlet valve and lever exactly the same as an original, so hope works ok.

Forgot how so very complicated it is to build wheels in this manner. Last lot were 35 years ago!. Happy with progress though. With the spokes secured in the hubs in the right places, the covers were soldered in place first, then I began meticulously setting each brass letter in place around the Hubs to replicate the 'Cast In' lettering. I had planned it out way back when I first made the hub parts- I used a dirty steel washer to hold the letters in place and bolting it all up to keep the hub parts lined up while I 'cooked' it to sweat the letters into a thin bed of solder. After removing the retaining bolt/washer- After an initial clean up and bonding check- Still more machining to do before finally riveting them up

Wheels are taking shape. Lot of monotonous work machining 20 spokes 1/8" (3.175mm) wide from 1.2mm sheet, then bending to two different shapes to fit- Spokes are fixed to hubs with 10BA c/sunk screws. Still lots of work before these are riveted to the rims and finished-

Just to bump this topic to say that this engine has been dismantled for more jobs to be finished prior to painting and running. I have also decided to make something to accompany it in 1 inch scale. Over the last 3 months, I've been researching Water Carts as well as referring to my old Model Engineer magazines from 1980's. So I've got enough info and images to reproduce an example of a Wallis and Steevens Ltd of Basingstoke Cart of the late 1890s. Wary of copyright issues, so here is a link to google search results. The black and white image is mainly what I'm working to- Wallis & Steevens Water Bowser Want to get these two models done so I can set up for painting at the same time and am making good progress. A few pics of what I've done so far- Machining the 'T' section wheel rims fron thick walled steel tube 4 1/2" dia x 1/4" thick (114mm x 6.3mm)- Finished 'T' rings with the hubs- ............and the wheel building jig with the finished axle/hubs - Side plates with associated parts ready for silver soldering- The side plates silver soldered up and trial fitted along with the lifting pump- Happy with the progress. Regards

Hi Ian , Shame you're having to downsize and localise your operation. It's hard having to deal with these kinds of serious blows. As mentioned when we last met up, I know exactly what you and and especially your wife have gone through. I've been doing the same with machines and W/Horses where I only play with small light work now and enjoy the space I now have, but I had a choice, where you perhaps have not. Chin up and just tick over within your limits. Best wishes for you both.

I know there is a lot experience and knowledge of these O&R enigne powered machine on here, so I thought I'd dip a toe in the water and post this sorry sight in a Tray- From a quick scan of the topics on here, I presume the red paint indicates an early-ish model. The engine cowling is a devoted effort by someone in the past to repair or keep running this unit without replacement parts being available, as the retractable pullstart is long gone. Being offered it, I'm tempted to have a go at it, but doubt if I could get it back to original appearance, the cost and availablility of parts and the current condition. The only numbers I could see on the motor are shown here- This being in the UK will not be so easy to sort, so may put under the bench for some 'over winter' repair therapy?. Regards

Will come back with an update on this towards the winter. It has now been married up to a good example of the original mower it used to push around in the 1920s- Needless to say in the meantime, it's being parked up on a display stand to earn it's keep at the Museum. I'm busy with miniature stuff at the moment.